Saturday, April 28, 2012

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Sheriff Joe's Lead Investigator: We Have Proof Foreign-Born Children Listed As Born In Hawaii - VIDEO HERE - Hat tip SA.



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50 comments:

  1. "So?"

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    So ???

    Whats NEW about that we ALWAYS knew about that from Hawaii DOH 338-17.5 !!!

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  2. It's not a matter of proving that HI will issue virtually anyone a birth certificate. That has already been pretty well established. The problem is that Congress, the Media, and our Corrupt Judiciary, refuse to do a damn thing about it.

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  3. Ask the Republican nominee to nominate a Constitutionally Eligible VP. Be among the first to sign the petition here - http://goo.gl/8qt0s

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  4. The federal government no longer responds to the will of the people.

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  5. My opinion is that Stanley Ann and little Barry arrived in Hawaii from Kenya sometime in the first week of August 1961 (Barry being a few months old) and on the first anniversary of the Dunhams' arrival in Hawaii (the Dunhams moved to Hawaii on August 7, 1960), they registered little Barry for citizenship, thereby procuring him a Hawaiian BC and a new birthdate. This would account for the missing week in the immigration records in the National Archives and would also qualify as the one-year Hawaiian residency needed by Stanley Ann in order to gain citizenship for her foreign-born son.

    BTW, weren't foreign births given a shortform BC when they applied for a Hawaiian BC or am I misremembering that?

    Also note that Moochelle was on her infamous - and costly - trip to Spain on Barry's birthday while he was enjoying his pursuits in Chicago with his buddies, leading one to think that August 7th really wasn't his actual birthday.

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  6. OBAMA HAS A FAKE BIRTH CERT A FAKE DRAFT CARD A FAKE SOC SEC NUMBER AN ILLEGAL ALIEN AUNT AND AN ILLEGAL ALIEN UNCLE.---OBAMA THE FORGER--ARREST OBAMA NOW JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF--(US GENERALS) CONGRESS IS PARALYZED BY OBAMAS IRS--

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  7. Everyday, I come to this site hoping to find that I've woken from a bad dream...that is stuck in a loop like Bill Murray's Groundhog Day.

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  8. They have been saying this since March first... and after interview after interview and press conference after press conference, they have yet to produce this "proof."

    They have yet to produce their "person of interest."

    They have yet to produce the computer they claim they know was used to upload the image "twenty minutes" before it was uploaded.

    Claim after claim after claim, and nothing. They are still sitting on their hands. What's the hold up? Haven't taken in enough cash yet?

    Present your proof, take it to the DA, and get Obama out and you will be wealthy and loved by the nation beyond your wildest dreams. To not do so shows you have nothing.

    I have no faith in the CCP or Arpaio.

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  9. August 7 is NOT his birthday. August 4 is.

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  10. Now you have to prove that it happened in one specific case. And you have no evidence that it did.

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  11. Big fucking deal! I want to see proof of an arrest warrant issued.

    You know Sheriff Joe, I never thought that you'd disappoint me... But, gimme a break!

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  12. "Whats NEW about that we ALWAYS knew about that from Hawaii DOH 338-17.5 !!!"

    Can you please explain how this works using 338-17.5?

    The procedure, please. I have read the section and I am not sure I understand how you claim this can result in a false BC being issued.

    Also, every state in the country has a similar procedure, so I am afraid that every state would have the same problem, if one exists as a result of this section of Hawaii state law.

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  13. "August 7 is NOT his birthday. August 4 is."

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    He did NOT say it was Obama's "birthday".

    He said that August 7, 1960, (NOTE 1960 - not 1961), was the date Obama's mother (and entire family) MOVED TO HAWAII.

    The only single stipulation of Hawaii DOH 338-17.8 is that the applicant must have "Been A Resident Of Hawaii For ONE-YEAR"

    Thus Aug. 7, 1961, (yes now note 1961), was the earliest LEGAL date they could have "filed" for the birth-cetificate to be recorded, (AND THUS WOULD HAVE CREATED THE "LEGAL-NOTICE" BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THE NEWSPAPERS.

    And if you don't know the TITLE of Hawaii DOH 338-17.8 is "Certificates For Cildren Born Out of State".

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    Here is the ENTIRE TEXT:

    [§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.

    Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

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  14. "Now you have to prove that it happened in one specific case. And you have no evidence that it did."

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    I am not sure what you mean ...

    Do you mean prove that an "out of state" baby was given an Hawaiian birth-certificate ???

    Cheesh, how numb-skull do you have to be if that is what you mean.

    1. The fact the "statue" (338-17.8) is sufficient since it proves it is "possible".

    BUT ....

    2. It has probably happened 1000's of times. It is not uncommon at all for a pregnant girl to travel/visit another state, OR COUNTRY, and have the baby while there.

    Case In Point: ME ... I was a permanent resident of Texas, but my wife had our first child while I was working out of state in Missouri.

    Immagration records also show that 14,676 American's had children OUT OF COUNTRY (all countries - but mostly European) during an 18 month period that includes Aug, 1961, (and ONE of them - only ONE - was born in Kenya during that time-period).

    Those records don't have "names" attached, so we can't use it as proof it was Ann Dunham, but it does at least prove it was possible.

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  15. That does not mean that the birth certificate would be issued listing Hawaii as the place of birth. It merely states that Hawaii can issue a birth certificate that certifies the birth, but it will list the state and hospital where that person was born, not change that place of birth to Hawaii.

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  16. "not change that place of birth to Hawaii."

    You mean like Sun Yat-sen who was born in China and is listed on his Hawaii BC as being born in Hawaii?

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/9830547/Sun-Yatsen-Certification-of-Live-Birth-in-Hawaii

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  17. Where's the beef?

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  18. @anonymous 6:45, here is what the idiot said:
    Also note that Moochelle was on her infamous - and costly - trip to Spain on Barry's birthday while he was enjoying his pursuits in Chicago with his buddies, leading one to think that August 7th really wasn't his actual birthday.

    Don't lie

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  19. That is a birth certificate from 1870. Before Hawaii was even a state.

    Got anything more current? Something that would fall under 338-17.5 that proves your point? You don't really plan to make an argument that uses evidence from nearly a century earlier, do you?

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  20. Don't you think people are being threatened or bought off?
    As good as this case is, I doubt it will go anywhere:
    http://youtu.be/Mlg_QMBGywQ?t=8m20s

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  21. the case is terrible, nothing to support it

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  22. "That is a birth certificate from 1870."

    You mean 1904?

    "You don't really plan to make an argument that uses evidence from nearly a century earlier"

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/04/cbs-news-video-child-in-hawaii-had.html

    Why not? You Obots like to tout Blackstone's legal dictionary as evidence that a natural born SUBJECT is the same as a natural born CITIZEN.

    I guess you'll have to wait until Sheriff Arpaio's investigators release all their proof.

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  23. Breaking News!! COINCIDENCE? LA County Coroner Official Dies Under 'Suspicious Circumstances' Same Week As Full Breitbart Cause of Death Report to Be Released; Poisoning Suspected...


    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/poisoning-suspected-in-sudden-death-of-coroners-official.html

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  24. The BC lists his birth as November 24. 1870, but yes it was issued by the "territory" of Hawaii in 1904... still long before Hawaii was a state. It still does not explain how this can occur under 338-17.5, the current law of Hawaii regarding the issuing of a certification of birth.

    I'm not really sure I understand your point about "Blackstone's legal dictionary" or how it has anything to do with my question about 338-17.5 resulting in a birth certificate that changes a person birth place from its place of origin to the state of Hawaii. That is all I am asking for.

    It almost sounds as if you are saying I should just accept this argument, even if I have problems with the evidence of it, just because I oppose Obama. It just doesn't work that way with me.

    Just because I disagree with this particular argument does not make me an "Obot."

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  25. http://www.barrysoetoro.net a site worth sharing about.

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  26. @AR925

    It isn't a coincidence

    That was Kapner's point
    http://youtu.be/Mlg_QMBGywQ?t=8m20s

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  27. It is 338-17.8 ..... (not 17.5) ..... that allows Hawaiian BC to children born out if state/country.

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  28. Actually, #7:32PM, you are correct about Aug. 7th not being the birthdate.

    But poster was pointing out that Stanley Ann or her mother filed for a BC for the wee bairn exactly one year to the date the Dunham family arrived in Hawaii in accordance with the one-year residency requirement. Since the immigration list for the first week of August is missing from the National Archives, it's possible that Stanley and her son did arrive earlier in the week and she filed on August 7th for the BC. The child didn't need to be present.

    Moochelle arrived in Spain on August 4, 2010 (allegedly her husband's birthday) and stayed for 5 nights. He went back to Chicago to party with friends, so it is possible that August 4th really isn't his birthday or you'd think he'd want to spend it with his family. She could have traveled to Spain at another time.

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  29. "Here is the ENTIRE TEXT:

    [§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.

    Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child."

    Which became law in 1982.
    [L 1982, c 182, §1]

    HRS 338-17.5 became law in 1972.
    [L 1972, c 66, pt of §1(3); gen ch 1985; am L 1986, c 339, §45]

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  30. But 17.8 is inclusive under 17.5... which was what the original poster at the beginning of this entire thread stated at the top. And 17.8 does not change the birth place of the child to Hawaii.

    The only thing that the entire section of the law does is allow a resident of Hawaii to give the state the right to issue a birth certificate, but it does not change the birth place of the child.

    Read the entire section. It requires residency, a court hearing, documentation, proof of place of birth, and if approved, the state of Hawaii can issue an official birth certificate, listing the place of birth for that child. It will list the state/country that child was born in and does not change the place of birth to that of Hawaii.

    Every single state in the country has some kind of provision for allowing precisely this. It is not unique to Hawaii.

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  31. Most of Arpios so called finding were long ago revealed by Orly Taitz. This is just another one of those. Come on Pink underwear guy lets see you do something that will make a difference.

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  32. The real question for Obama to answer?
    Spring of 1980 was registered at Occidental as Barry Soetoro--then two months later, July 30, 1980 registered for the draft as Barrack Obama---then less than one month later in 1980 registered again at Occidental for the fall semester as Barry Soetoro????????????

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  33. Not true. Occidental College has never claimed that he was ever registered under the name Barry Soetoro.

    The statement from Occidental clearly states that he was registered under Barack Obama and known alumni knew him as Barack Obama. There has never been any claim otherwise by Occidental College.

    If you have other information, please provide it, because I am curious why people continue to make this claim when it was debunked so long ago.

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  34. On a lighter note...

    At Prom Night in D.C., the subservient "journalism" class laughed at every NAUSEATING mocking joke Obama regurgitated from his comedy writers (must have been Letterman's staff on contract):

    "MY NAME IS BARACK OBAMA...(ROARING LAUGHTER)
    My mom was born in Kansas, my dad in Kenya, & I was born in...(smirk) HAWAII." (THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE).

    "We come here tonight, one year later to commemorate the most notorious person in the world..(head shot of a shouting Donald Trump)" (applause)

    Then Jimmy Kimmel comes on:

    "SALEM" Mr. President: (LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)

    "I am going to talk about the Secret Service, so cover your (BIG) EARS, if it is possible."

    "Do you remember when the country rallied around you for a better tomorrow? THAT WAS HILARIOUS..." (LAUGHTER)

    "There are terms for someone like you...maybe, just one..." (LAUGHTER)

    "You're are not from Kenya, you fooled everyone. You are really from Canada because you want health care for all.."

    "You are so thin that the real reason people thought you were from Kenya is NOT BECAUSE OF YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE, but we thought you were the winner of the marathon."

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  35. the bin laden FALSE FLAG HOAX:

    http://www.infowars.com/obama-bin-laden-2012-re-elect-the-stoic-heroic-killer-hoax/

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  36. The marriage between Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. is clearly granted a divorce by a Hawaii Judge of competent jurisdiction. To nullify such degree is banned by collateral estoppel. Even the Pope is not able to do it. Nice try Mike!

    The real question Mike, are you turning into a sperm count detective? If Obama Sr. is a cuckold so what? Many children born from a marriage are done with sperm donors. However the allegiance of the birth parents at the birth are credited with the allegiance of the offspring. The only basis that the Usurper Muslim in Chief would be a NBC is that his mother was not married at all and BHO is a bastard then under INA 1401 he would at least be considered a bastard NBC - but we do not even have to reach that far Mike. Where are you going on the sperm chase?

    Immigrants becoming citizens must take an oath of sole allegiance to the USA. Now why would that not be expected also of citizens born here? If you are born to two citizens parents, your allegiance is passed down. If you are not born to two citizen parents, you must take the oath, simple as that!

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  37. "If you are born to two citizens parents, your allegiance is passed down."

    What? Says who? Are you suggesting that a person born of two citizen parents is encapable of being a traitor to his or her country by virtue of their DNA?

    Where do you get this nonsense that allegiances are "passed down?"

    And since when are children born of parents with different citizenships required to take some kind of oath?

    Where did you get this stuff?

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  38. That fact has been known but one must Prove Obama was NOT born in HI to have any thunder

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  39. Has always been Hawaii's dirty little secret.

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  40. GOP lawmaker: Eligibility too scary to take on

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/gop-lawmaker-eligibility-too-scary-to-take-on/

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  41. GOP lawmaker: Eligibility too scary to take on

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/gop-lawmaker-eligibility-too-scary-to-take-on/

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  42. Folks...here are the REAL answers...

    The only thing that the entire section of the law does is allow a resident of Hawaii to give the state the right to issue a birth certificate, but it does not change the birth place of the child.

    Correct...the problem is that there is evidence of manipulation, and claims of forgery, connected to the long-form. And remember that the long-form is the document that would list whether the child was born in a hospital and have a doctor's signature. The chances are that Obama wasn't born overseas and registered as a foreign birth. What is MORE likely is that he was born overseas and then, once he got back to HI, was registered as a home birth in HI with the parents or grandparents providing witness affidavits to the fact that he was born at home in HI. This in no way PROVES he was born in HI. It simply proves that the parents claimed such. The long-form was potentially manipulated to obscure this fact.

    Based on this scenario, Hawaii WOULD consider Obama as having been born in the state...when he might not have even been born in the country. Understand the HUGE issue that we are facing now? Get on board and let's find the truth once and for all.

    Every single state in the country has some kind of provision for allowing precisely this. It is not unique to Hawaii.

    True..but.. 1) That simply means that every state is vulnerable to this type of fraud. 2) HI was MUCH more relaxed in their enforcement as they viewed themselves as separate and distinct from the continental US...especially at that time..only 2 short years after they became a state.

    Hell...maybe Obama was born in HI but two years earlier. Hmmm....but who cares...it's just the leader of the free world. LOL

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  43. To those criticizing Sheriff Joe and the CCP:

    This is a very complex issue and takes time to develop the evidence. Many issues are intentional misdirection on the part of those who created this document. Facts continue to develop and evolve. This is how a real police investigation works. More detailed evidence will be released but people need to be patient and not turn on those who sincerely are trying to do their part. The truth is that no federal agency will touch this, and no state Attorney Generals want anything to do with this. There is nobody to submit charges to. This is a massive cover-up...be angry at those who won't do their job instead of being angry at those trying to do theirs. We have to have 100% proof for anyone to even consider pursuing this. This is an unreasonable burden and not how things normally work. Reasonable doubt have been shown...which should normally be enough for a case where both sides present their evidence. Not so in the case of the President of the United States.

    Because nobody will take this issue up...this is basically a PR battle at this point. A 2nd press conference is scheduled and there will hopefully be more evidence, and more detail, provided.

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  44. Open Obama's Occidental College and Columbia University records, and I guarantee you he attended as a FOREIGN student, Open his student loan record and I guarantee you he applied as a FOREIGN student.
    Don't forget he lived on campus at Occidental in the International Dorm, which was restricted to FOREIGN students only, His room mate was from Pakistan,

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  45. Looking for the slam dunk here. Where's the beef?

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  46. @Anonymous 8:20 am

    Sorry, but that just simply isn't true. Obama was in the same dorm as Phil Boerner at Occidental college before they both transfered to Columbia and lived together in an apartment near the campus.

    Phil Boerner is hardly a foreigner.

    WND even refered to Phil Boerner as an, "obliging middle-class guy from suburban D.C."

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  47. @Anonymous @8:20

    Please enlighten us what student loan programs are available for foreign students. Which one(s) were available in 1979?

    You obviously have not filled out a FAFSA for a student lately.

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  48. MUST SEE OUTSTANDING VIDEO!!!


    "ATTORNEY GENERAL: OBAMA AND HIS ADMINISTRATION ARE THE GREATEST SET OF LAW-BREAKERS IN OUR LIFETIMES!!!"


    "REPORTS 21 SPECIFIC LAW VIOLATIONS!!! "THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!!" VIDEO

    March 8, 2012


    Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccellini:


    "This pResident and his administration in my view represent the greatest set of law-breakers that have run the federal government in our lifetimes.

    The fact is, pResident Obama and his appointee's have ignored federal laws, they've ignored binding rulings of federal courts, and they've ignored the limits on their power mandated by the Constitution."

    Lou Dobbs: [...] "What is going on? [...] What is the recourse that you hope to achieve here?"

    Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccellini:

    "Well, there's two things going on here. We compiled all of these violations of the law that we're all contending with around the country, to make the point that American's need to understand fully what's at stake in November, if they choose to vote to re-elect this pResident.

    AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S AT STAKE - IS THE RULE OF LAW ITSELF. 'Cause I wasn't kidding with the statement that you ran there before, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEVEL OF LAW-BREAKING IN THIS ADMINISTRATION.

    THESE AREN'T JUST DISPUTES ABOUT, "Well you see it one way, and we see it another way." For instance, take the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission went into try to regulate the Internet.

    A COURT TOLD THEM IN AN ORDER, "You don't have the authority to do that." They went back in the same year and said, "Well, we're going to do it anyway!!!!!" IN THE FACE OF A COURT ORDER THAT THEY DIDN'T APPEAL!!!!!!!!!!

    These are "the pResident's" appointee's!!!!!
    In that instance, it isn't just their opinion versus some other lawyer, in my case an attorney general, IT'S -- A COURT HAS RULED, AND THEY HAVE IGNORED THE RULING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And so now some private parties are going back to court with them over that. WE'RE GOING TO HELP THOSE PRIVATE PARTIES FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE TO RE-ESTABLISH THE RULES OF LAW THERE.

    We can rattle off examples from the EPA which I've taken to calling the "Employment Prevention Agency" because they're so good at that, BUT THEY HAVE VIOLATED THE LAW.

    THESE ARE NOT POLICY DIFFERENCES, THESE ARE VIOLATIONS OF THE LAW. And the pResident has created a corporate culture in his administration, that is very comfortable not merely pushing the boundaries, but completely trampling them, be they constitutional or legal."

    Lou Dobb: [...] "[T]he assault on religious freedom initiated by this administration [...]. THIS IS REMARKABLE FOR ANY ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccellini:

    "IT IS TRULY UNPRECEDENTED. People are used to hearing hyperbole in election years. The numbers don't lie. I mean just in the report we compiled there were over 20 violations of the law, [of "Obama" and his administration] and just last week, Virginia and Texas were in the DC Circuit Court Of Appeals here, on behalf of 15 states [...].

    [...] [A]nd the EPA came in and said, "OH NO, YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT OUR WAY, OR NO WAY!!" AND THE FEDERAL COURTS HAVE KNOCKED THEM BACK. THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW OVER AND OVER IN STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY."

    Lou Dobbs: "As always, It is good talking with you. We appreciate it."

    MUST SEE VIDEO:

    http://www.exposeobama.com/2012/03/08/lou-dobbs-report-details-21-legal-violations-by-obama-admin/

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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