Monday, February 27, 2012


Obama's Georgia Attorney Files Motion to Dismiss: Obama Being Harassed;
Ignores Natural Born Citizen Requirement

Excerpted from Jablonski's Brief in Support of Respondent’s(Obama) Motion to Dismiss:

The appeal from the Secretary of State’s decision finding that President Obama is qualified to appear on the Presidential Preference Primary ballot is one in a long line of persistent challenges filed across the country since 2008. Not a single challenge has ever been upheld.

An effort to harass the President continues with qualification challenges filed across the country and in Georgia. Challengers ignore procedural and evidentiary requirements because their claims are without merit, based on fantasy, and offered in pursuit of a political agenda. See, for example, Rhodes v. MacDonald, 670 F. Supp.2d 1363, 1364 (M.D. Ga. 2009), aff’d, 2010 WL 892848 (11th Cir. March 15, 2010) cert. denied, 129 S. Ct. 2830 (2009)(“When a lawyer uses the courts as a platform for political agenda disconnected from any legitimate legal cause of action, that lawyer abuses her privilege to practice law.”)

President Obama was a United States citizen from the moment of his birth in Hawaii. Since he held citizenship from birth, all Constitutional qualifications have been met. Ankeny v. Governor of State of Indiana, 916 N.E.2d 678 (Ind. App., 2009); see, United States v. Marguet-Pillado, 648 F.3d 1001, 1006 (9th Cir., 2011). There is no basis to question the President’s citizenship or qualifications to hold office. Specially appearing before this Court, respondent show that petitioner’s actions should be dismissed as they have been in numerous cases for lack of jurisdiction over the subject matter, failure of service of process, and failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted.

CONTINUED BELOW AND HERE: http://www.art2superpac.com/UserFiles/file/PowellvObamaBriefinSupportofRespondentsMotiontoDismissFultonCountySuperiorCourt2-27-2012.pdf

Obama's attorney Michael Jablonski also filed a 'Reply Brief to Petitioner's Motion for Emergency Hearing'. All 6 filings by Obama's Georgia attorney here: http://www.art2superpac.com/georgiaballot.html

ARTICLE II ELIGIBILITY FACTS HERE: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html
Powell v Obama, Brief in Support of Respondent’s Motion to Dismiss, Fulton County Superior Court, 2-27-2012

Flier/Handout - Obama Not a Natural Born Citizen with Venn Diagram - Support Art2SuperPAC

72 comments:

  1. From the Motion to Dismiss is the reference:

    'No one disputes that Marguet-Pillado’s requested
    instruction was “an accurate statement of the law,” in that it correctly stated the two circumstances in which an individual born in 1968 is a natural-born United States citizen: (1) that the person was born in the United States or (2) born outside the United States to a biologically-related United States citizen parent who met certain residency requirements." United States v. Marguet-Pillado, 648 F.3d 1001, 1006 (9thCir., 2011).

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    1. They should not because that is NOT the law.

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  2. There is no credible proof that Obama was actually born in Hawaii. In fact there isn't even any credible proof that his legal name is Obama.

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  3. Looks pretty rock solid to me.

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  4. @Anonymous

    Of course it does Fogblow! You probably wrote it for him.

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  5. Foblow? Really? Do you have anything to say about the brief? Or are you just upset at the fact that every single case filed about this has failed to bring you any relief?

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  6. Unfortunately, this is the caveat I have been saying for the past three years.

    Getting a judge to specifically define NBC is not going to happen because NBC would have to specifically rule out naturalized US citizen parents and require both parents to be natural-born citizens.

    That makes the definition circular.

    Obama has not provided a shred of valid concrete evidence - such as an actual, genuine, original birth certificate that we are told exists - to prove that he was born in Hawaii.

    A hundred affidavits by people claiming to have seen it is not concrete evidence.

    A forgery, however, is concrete evidence of identity fraud, conspiracy, and obstruction of justice.

    This is the only way to put them in a bind.

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  7. @Anonymous

    I get relief every morning after dropping a big Michelle and Barack in the toilet and flushing them.

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  8. This buffoon as well as others have drank the Obama aka Bounel koolaid feeling perfectly fine abandoning all that our forefathers have fought and died for. This of course is their prerogative since abandoning all forms of logic and reason. To promote and aqueous to the whims of surrender to chattel-hood is beyond the pale of our God given freedom.It is due to our God given freedom that we indeed thrive before the his heavenly throne.

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  9. @Dr. Ron Polland

    Unfortunately for you, the Full Faith and Credit clause means that every state in the Union must accept the birth certificate issued by Hawaii. Have you found a way around that yet?

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  10. There's no credible proof that obama is obama, or that he is 35

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  11. Dr. Ron Polland, 7:41pm said: "...NBC would have to specifically rule out naturalized US citizen parents and require both parents to be natural-born citizens."
    I believe that is a mis-statement.
    Rather: A child born here would be NBC if both parents are US citizens at the time of the birth of the child. Parents can be either born here or naturalized.
    (The allegiance to this country is what is of importance!)

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  12. A Constitutional Legal MindFebruary 27, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    What caught my attention that Jablonski wrote in the Motion to Dismiss is this reference:

    'No one disputes that Marguet-Pillado’s requested
    instruction was “an accurate statement of the law,” in that it correctly stated the two circumstances in which an individual born in 1968 is a natural-born United States citizen: (1) that the person was born in the United States or (2) born outside the United States to a biologically-related United States citizen parent who met certain residency requirements." United States v. Marguet-Pillado, 648 F.3d 1001, 1006 (9thCir., 2011).

    This part:

    2) born outside the United States to a biologically-related United States citizen parent who met certain residency requirements." United States v. Marguet-Pillado, 648 F.3d 1001, 1006 (9thCir., 2011).

    It seems that Jablonski is basically saying that Obama hypothetically could have been born in Kenya to ONE PARENT (as stated above) and a foreign father and be considered a natural born Citizen BUT let us not forget that in Senate Resolution 511, it stated McCain was born to Citizen parents (plural) in Panama and that made him a natural born Citizen. So which is it Jablonski?

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  13. When you have no defense and no facts on your side, you invalidate and say it is "political" harassment.

    What a cry baby, running home to mommy.

    "Mommy those Patriots are bullying me! I'm gonna put them in detention camps indefinitely... Because I can!"

    "But Bari, dear, THERE WILL BE NO ONE LEFT BUT ME AND MOOCHELLE TO VOTE FOR YOU!"

    If there was ANYONE WHO WAS A POLITICAL HARASSSER, it is Bari SOETORO , the GREAT IMPOSTER.

    Not only is he an imposter, but anyone with a triple digit iq see how all those years of drug induced stupors has left his brain like a fried egg.

    Jablonski did not write this; Perkins Coie did: IT IS BOILERPLATE!

    He was already denied a motion to dismiss by Mahili.

    Obama is getting very scared now because we are RELENTLESS.

    If he is using his own $$$ he is going broke; if this is government funded, it is NOT A BUDGETARY ITEM & Issa's house oversight commitee should get his accounting ledgers. If his legal fees are being paid for by campaign funds or a Superpac, they are PROHIBITED. Just ask John Edwards about the STRICT RULES & COMPLIANCE!

    Klayman should file a complaint with the FEC.

    LIKE AL CAPONE, the way to remove him is via theft and conversion of funds for personal use and enrichment.

    He will never leave on eligibility terms, but misappropriation of funds, yes.

    Obama/Soetoro is a recidivist career criminal; TONY REZKO KNOWS. He's in jail for 10 1/2 years.

    Obama is used to escaping the LAW. His days are numbered.

    Jablonski is a fool and has a fool for a client.

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  14. @Anonymous

    Unfortunately for you, the Full Faith and Credit clause means that every state in the Union must accept the birth certificate issued by Hawaii. Have you found a way around that yet?

    As soon as a CERTIFIED copy is presented to a state or federal court, THEN you have a point. Until then, you are claiming that an image that CLAIMS to be of a certified document, and which was only presented on the Internet in a digital form, must be honored by all states. This is FALSE.

    Try showing a cop a picture of your driver's license the next time you get pulled over.

    Swing and a miss...strike one.

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  15. @Dr. Ron Polland - I respect your BC work, but you are wrong on the NBC definition. One's parents only need to be citizens, whether naturalized or natural born doesn't matter.

    I'm curious if you are deflecting from that issue to try and shift focus to the BC, a topic from which you hope to gain notoriety?

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  16. A Constitutional Legal MindFebruary 27, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    Not once does Jablonski refer to the president as a natural born Citizen in his motion but rather a Citizen.

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  17. @Anonymous

    Fine... Produce a valid certified HI BC, that's all.

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  18. Regarding the accpetance of the COLB: even if for the first time a copy certified by the HDOH is presented as evidence, it states right on it that it is only prima facie evidence. Which means at first glance or if not challenged. There is plenty of cause to question and challenge any docs put forward by Chairman Soetoro.

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  19. California birther/dualer/doubterFebruary 27, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    @ anon at 8:03 p.m. re: "Unfortunately for you, the Full Faith and Credit clause means that every state in the Union must accept the birth certificate issued by Hawaii. Have you found a way around that yet?"

    Listen, you fucking asshole. How do we know for sure that the bogus piece of shit posted by the White House is in fact what Hawaii purportedly released when it would not even vouch for it as being an authentic representative of what it released? How do we know that some damned Obot didn't screw around with it? So take your shitty excuses to hell with you. Or stick around and wait for Sheriff Joe to pound some sense into you on March 1.

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  20. Remember that painting of a pipe, that says

    "Ceci n'est pas un pipe"
    "This is not a pipe"

    If dumbots want to use some English Common Law, a PICTURE of evidence, is not evidence!!!!!!!

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  21. @A Constitutional Legal Mind

    This quote is from the Ninth Circuit Courts opinion in United States v. Marguet-Pillado, 648 F.3d 1001, 1006 (9thCir., 2011).

    The point that Jablonski is making is that the Ninth Circuit Court is saying that anyone born in the United States is a natural born Citizen.

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  22. The nano second that someone in the WH hit the Post button for the forged PDF Long Form Birth Certificate, they sealed Barry's fate and forever committed a Federal felony in his name.

    April 27, 2011...an ugly day that will forever live in infamy.

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  23. Pakistan is not fond of his Muslim practices either.

    http://news.yahoo.com/photos/supporter-human-rights-network-group-wears-mask-u-photo-151025752.html

    Get him on Tax fraud. It is not so impossible.
    http://www.wnd.com/2011/08/332929/

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  24. A Constitutional Legal MindFebruary 27, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    @AnonymousThe point that Jablonski is making is that the Ninth Circuit Court is saying that anyone born in the United States is a natural born Citizen


    And Jablonski also is saying that a person born to one U.S. Citizen parent abroad in a foreign country is also a natural born Citizen. That is not true.

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  25. "An effort to harass the President continues with qualification challenges filed across the country and in Georgia". You ain't seen nuttin yet a**hole! Just wait 'til March 1st when Sheriff Joe delivers his smack down. LOL

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  26. Throw EVERYTHING against the wall & hope SOMETHING STICKS:
    DICTA. FILLER, & CONVOLUTED junk.

    "ignores procedure BECAUSE THEIR CASE IS WITHOUT MERIT & BASED IN FANTASY". ...
    Because? Makes no sense. Substitute "therefore".

    This lawyer is attempting to harass the secretary of state. His client still holds & secrets the PROOF which was never EVEN validated by Georgia's democratic party.
    He himself is a delegate & should be asked if he ever saw a certified birth certificate.
    Courts require verified proof.

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  27. I am not connected with these cases.

    Referring to the above excerpts,

    Paragraph One: Argumentum ad populum

    Paragraph Two:

    a) So that he may pursue a political agenda, Obama through his political prominence has sought in Georgia's legal and administrative proceedings favor, and exemption from providing identification to authenticate claims of compliance with constitutional and statutory requirements for holding the office he seeks.

    This exemption is enjoyed by no other individual, nor should it be enjoyed by any individual.

    Compliance with constitutional and statutory requirements is authenticated by providing documentary evidence. Obama seeks exemption, yet Defense claims Plaintiff is in "pursuit of a political agenda"?

    b) Defense Counsel defiantly and contemptously ignored the court by failing to appear and now makes the claim that Plaintiff ignores procedural requirements - look in the mirror, Counsel! This is utterly laughable.

    c) Statements that Plaintiff is engaged in an "effort to harass" are defamatory.

    Paragraph Three:

    a) Defense statements regarding the candidate's identity; the circumstances, location, and date of birth; and citizenship, are conclusory and unsupported by verifiable fact.

    b) There is no jurisdictional issue. O.C.G.A. §21-2-5 states "Every candidate for federal and state office ... shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought."

    c) Relief can be granted by Defendant's name not appearing on Georgia ballots.


    Defense Motion is ridiculous on its face.

    It should be spread far and wide and held high for all the public to see. Show the world the nonsense we are expected to believe! This is your responsibility, the press will hide it.

    Defense expects us to believe their nonsense? To yield to a willful man seeking favor: freedom from the fetters of law? It is unreasonable for a person to refuse to identify himself. We are governed by law, not willful men.

    Defense Motion is screaming begging for scorn and ridicule. Give it to them. Give it to them publicly and without mercy: they expect us to subordinate our law to his will!

    Defense Motion mocks the court.

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  28. @Anonymous
    "As soon as a CERTIFIED copy is presented to a state or federal court, THEN you have a point. Until then, you are claiming that an image that CLAIMS to be of a certified document, and which was only presented on the Internet in a digital form, must be honored by all states. This is FALSE.

    Try showing a cop a picture of your driver's license the next time you get pulled over.

    Swing and a miss...strike one."

    Weird. From all the cases I've seen here - it's worked just fine.

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  29. @California birther/dualer/doubter
    "Listen, you fucking asshole. How do we know for sure that the bogus piece of shit posted by the White House is in fact what Hawaii purportedly released when it would not even vouch for it as being an authentic representative of what it released? How do we know that some damned Obot didn't screw around with it? So take your shitty excuses to hell with you. Or stick around and wait for Sheriff Joe to pound some sense into you on March 1."

    They did. Here:

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

    It vouches for the 2008 release, and explains the 2011 release. Hawaii certified it, so for every other state, it is legitimate.

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  30. Isn't it scary in this country that - the party - is more important than country? Maybe it has always been that way but it is sure more obvious now. I think they all know the truth. And if they have sold us out on this one thing...just think of everything else we've been sold out on over the years.

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  31. There is a major flaw in the arguments being presented here i.e. Obama's using a fake SSN, he's a dictator paying off or threatening judges, he wasn't born in Hawaii, he has a fake BC etc. etc. etc., and that flaw is: if any of this were true - this site, and Orly's website, and Harry Accornero's website, would have long ago been shut down.

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  32. Anonymous 9:13
    Good point. In fact, while arguing over it with friend, I asked him for his driver license. I scanned it, loaded the image to his laptop and...
    Then I cut-up the original and told that the next time that he is pulled over or has to cash a check, to just open his laptop!

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  33. What if Obamas father was a Mexican who was here on a student visa?Would Obama still be a Natural Born Citizen?

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  34. What is the citizenship @ birth status of someone who is born in the United States to a mother who is 100% an American citizen but the identity of the father is unknown?

    There are many cases of children being born to unwed mothers in which the identity of the father is never known and the birth certificate would reflect this with either no name at all or listed as a "John Doe." Reasons could include rape (an unknown attacker), promiscuity (multiple possible fathers), one night stand (unknown father), shame (mother denies identity of the father).

    In these cases, what is the status of a child born under these circumstances as it pertains to the NBC issue? If NBC status is denied, then what is the reason for this denial if the father is unknown to the child and has never been in a position to influence the child?

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  35. @Anonymous

    "@Dr. Ron Polland

    Unfortunately for you, the Full Faith and Credit clause means that every state in the Union must accept the birth certificate issued by Hawaii. Have you found a way around that yet?"

    As someone previously pointed out, your opinion is predicated on every State receiving a [printed] copy of Obama's birth certificate issued by Hawaii. To that I would add that, per Hawaii Department of Health law, those copies must have the official seal of the Hawaii Department of Health embossed on them in order for them to be considered authentic.

    In 2008 the Democratic Party of Hawaii, Obama's own party in his alleged birth State, submitted an "Official Certification of Nomination" to the Chief Elections Official of Hawaii which effectively certified Obama as NOT eligible to serve as POTUS under provisions of the U.S. Constitution. To date, no Obama supporter has found a way around that.

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  36. The way this appears to be playing out, posturing will drag this out beyond the March 6 primary making all of this moot. Unless something happens in the next couple of days the law breaker will, once again, have won and will have been proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that this government and these courts cannot and will not ever be in place for US. It's all about the money and never has been about justice. Justice is only available to those willing to enforce it at the tip of a spear. There is no spear just as there is no justice. This is the message for all to hear and learn. Read the reasons stated in the Declaration of Independence for going to war in the first place and you'll soon see why we're heading towards the same thing. Actually, we're already there.

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  37. @Anonymous
    "The nano second that someone in the WH hit the Post button for the forged PDF Long Form Birth Certificate, they sealed Barry's fate and forever committed a Federal felony in his name.

    April 27, 2011...an ugly day that will forever live in infamy."
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    Oh God how I wish the above were true! But it's not. The state of Hawaii has given Obama "plausible deniability."
    They issued a media release stating that they honored Zero's request for a certified copy of his original birth certificate and after consultation with the Hawaii state Attorney General, the Department of Health honored Obama's request.
    You can read the state of Hawaii's media release here:
    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

    Hawaii even provides a link to the Obama long form on whitehouse.gov
    That is their way of saying that its authentic.

    Obama can always say, "I only posted what the state of Hawaii assured me was authentic and valid."

    These people are left wing lawyers which means they know how to twist the law to suit their purposes.

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  38. @California birther/dualer/doubter
    "Listen, you fucking asshole. How do we know for sure that the bogus piece of shit posted by the White House is in fact what Hawaii purportedly released when it would not even vouch for it as being an authentic representative of what it released? How do we know that some damned Obot didn't screw around with it? So take your shitty excuses to hell with you. Or stick around and wait for Sheriff Joe to pound some sense into you on March 1."
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    Are you unaware that the State of Hawaii has a link to the Obama long form on the Hawaii Department of Health's web site?
    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

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  39. @Dr. Ron Polland
    NBC does not require the parents to be 'natural born citizens' - they only have to be US citizens, naturalized or natural born.

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  40. @Anonymous
    That digital image of bc published online is NOT bc issued by Hawaii.
    If it is a hard-copy certified by Hawaii with their official seal, then it is a genuine bc issued by Hawaii.

    Where is the hard-copy? obozo's attorney probably has it but he dared not show it, instead, he had it altered before putiing it online!

    If they have indeed obtained a genuine copy of the bc from Hawaii, show it! What are they afraid of?
    If Hawaii has indeed issued to obozo a genuine copy of obozo's bc, then it is all in public, why do they refuse to release the original for 'privacy' reason?

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  41. Dr. Polland...please continue your work! please continue to make the case of the forgery. I realize you have put an incredible amount of time into uncovering this, and many of us truly are grateful. As you said, you didn't start out thinking you would be the one to prove it was a forgery. Just want to encourage you, to do all that you can. Many of us here are as well! God help the USA.

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  42. "Obama is getting very scared now because we are RELENTLESS.
    If he is using his own $$$ he is going broke; if this is government funded, it is NOT A BUDGETARY ITEM & Issa's house oversight commitee should get his accounting ledgers. If his legal fees are being paid for by campaign funds or a Superpac, they are PROHIBITED. Just ask John Edwards about the STRICT RULES & COMPLIANCE!"

    Nope, you're wrong. Obama's lawyers are being paid out of campaign funds. John Edwards used campaign funds to make secret payoffs to cover up his affair and was charged for violating campaign finance laws accordingly.

    Obama is fighting ballot challenges in open court which is viewed as part of the political process. WND claims the campaign has spent 1.7 million so far on these challenges. Considering Obama is expected to raise close to a billion dollars this election cycle I wouldn't count on him going broke anytime soon.

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  43. @Anonymous

    Weird. From all the cases I've seen here - it's worked just fine.

    Malihi simply "considered" Obama to be a citizen due to lack of substantive proof. The lack of substantive proof invalidates the Full Faith and Credit Clause. In order for that clause to be applicable, the document must be an actual certified document, not an image of one...AND it must be presented to an official body in an official capacity.

    Weird, none of the cases I've seen here have done that. ;)

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  44. @James Spaith - That doesn't make any sense. Shutting down these sites would only make more people think there might be something to the claims.

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  45. @right turn - Your first problem is the use of the word "still". As it is, Obama is NOT currently a natural born citizen.

    In the scenario you present, if his father were here on a student visa, but was not a citizen, Obama would be a 14th Amendment citizen, or a native-born citizen, but NOT a natural born citizen.

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  46. @Just Curious - That would have to be adjudicated and decided by the SCOTUS. These types of decisions are exactly why this issue is being avoided. There are many tough decisions to be made and the current leadership is none to keen to put their neck on the line to make them.

    Based on the current SCOTUS precedent, I would say that the person in your example is a native-born citizen, but not necessarily natural-born. Or at least, not able to PROVE they are natural-born. Very interesting question.

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  47. @jh4freedom

    Are you unaware that the State of Hawaii has a link to the Obama long form on the Hawaii Department of Health's web site?
    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html


    JH - Are you unaware that an online facsimile of a certified document is NOT itself a certified document? Are you unaware that linking to a facsimile of a certified document isn't the same as certifying said document? These are all ways to make the document APPEAR certified and legit, without ever actually having to prove it. Unfortunately, enough of the public has been fooled by these tactics.

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  48. @Anonymous
    They handed out copies of the long form to the White House Press Corps at the news conference that was held on April 27, 2011 which was called to announce that they had received the long form from Hawaii.
    Les Kinsolving of worldnetdaily.com was one of the reporters who received a copy.
    Only one reporter, Savannah Guthrie of NBC/MSNBC got to see and feel the hard copy that was sent from Hawaii.

    "Many members of the press confessed to being "stunned" as it became clear what was about to be discussed. White House press assistants handed out a six-page stapled packet of photocopies showing the new and old birth certificates as well as the White House's legal correspondence with Hawaii's Department of Health."
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-r_n_854248.html

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  49. You Obots are fucking liars!

    Guthrie was never allowed to "feel" it.

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  50. Minor vs Happerset refers to those born of parents who are citizens: "These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."
    This seem to blur the difference.

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  51. HAWAI‘I HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPIES OF ‘LONG FORM’ BIRTH CERTIFICATE
    HONOLULU – The Hawai'i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai'i,” Hawai'i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai'i.”
    On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President's personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the President.
    On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama's request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.
    President Obama authorized Ms. Corley to pick up the documents. On April 25, 2011, Ms. Corley appeared in person at the Hawai'i State Department of Health building in Honolulu, paid the requisite fee, and was given the two certified copies, a response letter from Director Fuddy to President Obama, and a receipt for payment.

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  52. @Anonymous
    "You Obots are fucking liars!

    Guthrie was never allowed to "feel" it."
    ---
    Don't get your panties all in a twist. I am not an Obot and the information that Savannah Guthrie FELT the raised Seal comes from Mario Apuzzo and Worldnetdaily. Neither is connected to Obots.

    From Mario's native born citizen blog:
    "The same WND article also states that there is no visible raised seal on the Obama April 27, 2011 on-line image of his alleged long-form Certificate of Live Birth. But NBC's Savannah Guthrie, who attended the White House release of the new long-form document, reported that she had the opportunity to view the document and that she “felt the raised seal.” View the video and transcript at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42779923/ns/politics-white_house/

    So, how does Guthrie feel a raise seal on that document but a a scan of allegedly that same document does not show any raised seal?"
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/05/when-will-congress-and-fbi-investigate.html

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  53. JH - Are you unaware that an online facsimile of a certified document is NOT itself a certified document? Are you unaware that linking to a facsimile of a certified document isn't the same as certifying said document? These are all ways to make the document APPEAR certified and legit, without ever actually having to prove it. Unfortunately, enough of the public has been fooled by these tactics.
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    According to Orly Taitz's blog, Obama's attorney, Michael Jablonsky had certified copies of the Obama birth certificate sent to Judge Malihi and Secretary of State Brian Kemp for the Georgia ballot challenge.

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  54. "So, how does Guthrie feel a raise seal on that document but a a scan of allegedly that same document does not show any raised seal?"
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/05/when-will-congress-and-fbi-investigate.html"

    Simple, she doesn't. I can feel the embossed/raised seal on my credit card size plastic encased New Hampshire birth certificate and a scan of it shows a legible raised seal.

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  55. @jh4freedom

    Another reason to believe Orly is actually working for Obama. NO court has ever been provided such certified documents. A COMPLETE LIE.

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  56. Guthrie was allowed to see and feel the seal. However, she was the ONLY person who was. You don't find that strange?

    Also, she had no idea she would be feeling the seal or what the press conference was even about, so it's not like she was prepared to authenticate it.

    Finally, the photo that she took of the seal, is JUST of the seal. You can't see what document the seal is on or if it matches the info on the image released publicly. Did she view each field to verify that it matched what was put on the WH website. That would be tough considering she was given the physical document BEFORE the pdf was made available and BEFORE the press got the photocopies.

    Are we supposed to believe that she jotted down all of the info on the BC to compare it to the version that would be made available later?

    Please, this is OBVIOUSLY suspicious.

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  57. "Guthrie was allowed to see and feel the seal. However, she was the ONLY person who was. You don't find that strange?"
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    No, not at all. One member of the White House press corps is often selected to represent the whole. Everyone else got a six page packet containing black and white photocopies of the long form and the short form and the letters between the Hawaii Department of Health and Obama.
    Only one member of the press got to see John McCain's personal copy of his birth certificate as well, Michael Dobbs of the Washington Post.
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/05/john_mccains_birthplace.htm

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  58. According to measurements taken of the Guthrie photo of the "seal" it appears to be considerably smaller than the official HI Seal that has been seen on other certified HI LFBCs. This is very suspicious.

    Plus another very curious fact that does not pass the smell test.

    It was stated at the P.C. that BHO would not be holding the BC when he spoke to the press. Why? Answer: This would allow BHO to later claim that he had never seen the BC, let alone have it in his possession to examine it.

    BTW, this is a phony argument and would never stand up in any legitimate court.

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  59. @Anonymous at 11:43

    As I understand it, the reason for the natural born clause was on a pretense of possible divided loyalties or the appearance of divided loyalty.

    The reasons for this are apparently two fold. Jus soli, which in my example this person does meet that criteria, and jus sanguinis, which is also met by my example with the child's mother being an American citizen.

    If the original intent of the NBC clause was to somehow remove potential influence (which I really don't get how where a person is born or whom they are born to can prevent any such influence), then why in the case of a person who does not know who their father was, and was thus absent of that influence be it foreign or otherwise, denied NBC status?

    I am not looking for a reason by explanation of law, nor am I interested in what the "intent" of the founding fathers was. I am interested in the reasoning or logic behind denial of NBC status when the father is unknown to that person.

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  60. @AR925

    "You ain't seen nuttin yet a**hole! Just wait 'til March 1st when Sheriff Joe delivers his smack down. LOL"

    Yeh, we are all shaking in our boots over that one. :D

    You are all going to be very, very dissapointed come March 1st.

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  61. Another reason to believe Orly is actually working for Obama. NO court has ever been provided such certified documents. A COMPLETE LIE.
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    I have no idea whether Dr. Taitz is lying or not.
    Since no eligiblity lawsuit has ever gotten to a discovery or evidence phase, there has been no need for Obama's attorneys to enter a certified copy into evidence.
    The ballot challenges have seen evidence entered but not by Obama and those have been administrative hearings, not civil trials.
    Do you doubt that if Obama needed to produce a certified copy for any court, the Abercrombie administration in Hawaii would send him as many certified copies as he needed?
    In the Georgia ballot challenge,one of the plaintiffs' attorneys entered a downloaded image of the Obama long form from whitehouse.gov into evidence and the judge accepted it.
    In the Indiana Ankeny v Mitch Daniels lawsuit in 2009, the plaintiff used the factcheck.org short form image to stipulate that Obama was born in Hawaii because they were arguing the "two American citizen" parent position.

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  62. POLL - Is Orly Taitz:

    1) Controlled opposition (Obot in disguise) Optimus Taitz we'll call her.

    -or-

    2) Well meaning but overly emotional and mistake prone?

    Vote now!!

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  63. ESSENCE OF the matter is that - to be eligible for POTUS - Mr. O is required to be, but IS NOT, a Natural-Born-Citizen.
    By on HIS OWN words, in his presented BC and book, his father was NOT a citizen of the US. And, according to Mr. O's own words he himself is a "native citizen".

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  64. @jh4freedom

    A plaintiff's submission of the "alleged" BC and stipulation to Obama's US birth does not prove such. It just means the starting point for that particular case ASSUMES that it is valid...because the case doesn't involve birthplace.

    Another telling fact is that in GA Judge Malihi joined 4 separate cases in order to "consider" Obama to have been born in the US. If he would have kept them separate there would have been no evidence at all to even CONSIDER Obama to have been born in the US.

    A judges job is to FIND something to be true or false...not CONSIDER. He only stated what the plaintiff's considered to be true in one case, and applied it across 3 different cases. Very disingenuous and very telling.

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  65. There should be no credible proof that Obama was actually born in Hawaii...the truth of the matter is that Obama is actually born in China and is here to turn the US into a socialist society.

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  66. More lies from Jim Galloway Atlanta Journal Constitution: http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/02/29/attorney-in-birther-action-jumps-into-state-senate-race/?cp=1#comment-209703

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  67. @AnonymousCORRECT YOU ARE.
    WE HAVE AN ILLEGAL PRESIDENT.
    Obama is not a “natural-born Citizen”, as is required to even legally run for President, simply because his father was a foreigner.
    Obama is an illegal-alien as he was born a British Subject, in Kenya, before he was adopted in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro.
    As Soetoro he applied to Occidental College and received a Fulbright scholarship for foreign students.
    In 1981 he travelled to Pakistan on a foreign passport.
    Obama’s Selective service registration is falsified.
    The Hawaiian Birth certificate is a forgery and he is using a stolen Connecticut Social Security Number.
    THIS IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY AND A CONSTITUTIONAL-CRISIS
    Technically we have an illegal-alien in The Whitehouse
    www.BirtherReport.com
    www.WND.com
    www.unlawfulpresident.com
    www.thebirthers.org
    www.BirtherSummit.org
    www.Art2superPAC.com

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  68. "A plaintiff's submission of the "alleged" BC and stipulation to Obama's US birth does not prove such. It just means the starting point for that particular case ASSUMES that it is valid...because the case doesn't involve birthplace.

    Another telling fact is that in GA Judge Malihi joined 4 separate cases in order to "consider" Obama to have been born in the US. If he would have kept them separate there would have been no evidence at all to even CONSIDER Obama to have been born in the US.

    A judges job is to FIND something to be true or false...not CONSIDER. He only stated what the plaintiff's considered to be true in one case, and applied it across 3 different cases. Very disingenuous and very telling."
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    The judge was an Administrative Law Judge, not a civil or criminal court jurist. His job was to make a recommendation to the Georgia Secretary of State which the Secretary of State could ignore or adopt. In this case, the Secretary of State agreed with the Administrative Law Judge's recommendation.
    The same result has happened in Illinois, Indiana, New Hampshire, New York and Virginia as well as Georgia.

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  69. the case in Fulton county Superior court was DIMISSED today, I have no details wh: http://www.fcclkjudicialsearch.org/Scripts/UVlink.isa/tsgdb1/WEBSERV/PUBCivilSearch?action%3Dview&track%3D746740y.

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  70. In case you had not yet heard, Liberty Legal Foundation now has published a copy of the Fulton Superior Court's Judge to grant the motion to dismiss primarily because of the ridiculous argument that a primary candidate is not a candidate, and investigation such an individual would obstruct the right to assemble. The Judge further offered verbiage that I think can be interpreted to mean that given the electoral process in the United States, even in the general election, Georgia would be prevented disqualifying presidential candidates from the ballot.

    http://libertylegalfoundation.org/certification-class-action/georgia-ballot-challenge/

    Not only that, but the decision was produced only 90 minutes after Van Irion's latest filing in the case.

    Staggering cowardice, or stupidity or corruption.

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