Friday, February 24, 2012


Indiana Election Commission Rules Obama's Mom's Passport Records
Showing Obama's Indonesian Surname Soebarkah Irrelevant

Indiana Ballot Challenge Hearing Against Obama | February 24, 2012 @ Youtube - VIDEO HERE




Flashback: Stanley Ann Dunham/Obama/Soetoro Passport Records Released: Obama's Mama's Pre-1965 Passport Records Destroyed; New Obama Surname Soebarkah - DETAILS HERE

ARTICLE II ELIGIBILITY FACTS HERE: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

126 comments:

  1. i hope you people of Indiana are ready to storm your capital are clean up the corruption there. we got some real work to do in this nation of cleaning out the nest of commies and un Americans we got living here and who have found their way into our government. lock n load America we have been invaded while we were not paying attention. they are in both party's and the courts are full of corrupt scum.

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  2. It's hopeless...it's in the People's hands now...what will we do? How much more of this can we take? When and where will it all end?

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  3. Wow! This is one totally corrupt board; corrupt to the bone. This election board is worse than New Hampshire. Absolutely Biased! No one is willing to listen to anything. This board makes the New Hampshire board look like saints.
    Anyone with a brain can tell just by listening to the audio that the commission was completely biased towards Obama and had their mind made before any word was ever spoken. Orly put forward her case, the commission essentially IGNORED it citing no valid or legal reason to do so. This was an absolute display of corrupt and bias and these board members are lower than dirt.

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  4. Obama refused to show for the hearing. A Default Judgement was asked for Obama failing to appear.

    The board would have none of it. Absolute slimeballs these board members were.

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  5. The board was abusive, biased and irate towards Orly and her clients from the get go. The board made allegation after allegation with no shred of any factual detail. The board ignored anything Orly or her clients had to say and even refused to let Orly and her clients to speak. In the end the board begrudgenly allowed Orly about 5 minutes to talk, then they dismissed the whole thing.

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  6. SINCE WHEN DO THESE HOOSIER LOSERS KNOW WHAT IS RELEVANT OR NOT?! DO THEY EVEN KNOW THE CONSTITUTION EXISTS?! DOUBTFUL IN THE LEFTIST CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS!

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  7. Finally, someone had the balls to tell Orly flat out that her "evidence" is inadmissible, has never been authenticated, and is 100% hearsay.

    It's about time.

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  8. Well from this site...

    http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/2404.htm

    Here are the slime...

    "Daniel A. Dumezich Chair; since August 2010; member since July 2006

    S. Anthony Long, Vice-chair; member since July 1997

    Sarah Steele Riordan, member since September 2006

    Bryce H. Bennett, Jr., member since August 2011


    They are appointed by the Governor upon recommendation by appropriate major political party state chair."

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  9. This is how every single ballot challenge is going to be summarily shot down.

    This Judge is obviously working as hard as he possibly can to obstruct justice and suppress evidence.

    Our Government has been overthrown in a bloodless coup.

    We are living under a dictatorship!

    What happened to the default ruling?

    It should have been automatic!

    Obama failed to appear!

    The motion to dismiss was flatly denied!

    This is outrageous!

    This cannot be allowed to continue!

    It's time to revolt!

    Orly Taitz did a great job of standing up to these treasonous bastards!

    Orly Taitz has the heart of lion!

    God Bless Orly Taitz!

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  10. STATEMENT IN RESPONSE TO ORLY TAITZ’S CONTINUAL MISREPRESENTATIONS OF ARTICLE II SUPER PAC AND ARTICLE II LEGAL DEFENSE FUND
    February 24, 2012

    http://www.art2superpac.com/UserFiles/file/ARTICLEIISUPERPACSTATEMENTINRESPONSETOORLYTAITZ02-24-12.pdf

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  11. This is really interesting in that 9 months after I filed for a Vaughn Index in the FOIA case DCDC 08-cv-2234 Judge Leon ordered that the DOJ has 45 days to do a summary judgement on my request for more records from Customs and Border.

    The Soebarkah item is irrelevant to the NBC issue so why is that Indiana court screwing around with that info when the real deal is the British Father matter BHO is not NBC because he has a British subject father notwithstanding his others being a minor? BHO is merely naturalized at birth at best. WE have not seen the end of this matter evidently. I am putting my efforts on the New York Court of Appeals.

    Chris Strunk

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  12. Obama Failed To Appear In An Adminstrative Court Again Today. Instead Of Issuing A Default Ruling Against Obama For His Failure To Appear, The Motion For A Default Ruling Was Flatly Denied. In Addition To Their Letting Obama Off Scott Free, The Ballot Challenge Was Unanimously Denied. This Is Totally UNACCEPTABLE! We Need To Revolt Against This Media Black Out! We Must Help The Tape Of This Hearing To Go Viral!

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  13. "Finally, someone had the balls to tell Orly flat out that her "evidence" is inadmissible, has never been authenticated, and is 100% hearsay."

    Total nonsense. Not only did the lady not give any explanation whatsoever why such evidence was hearsay, the board summarily and flatly rejected sworn evidence from a state court. Orly attempted show the relevence and the proper authetication of her evidence but the board would have none of it.

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  14. Taitz was asked if she was aware that Indiana has ruled Obama a Natural Born Citizen.

    She replied "No".

    So she's denying knowledge of the Ankeny Decision, which was used to shoot down her case in GA?

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  15. Ouch!

    http://www.art2superpac.com/UserFiles/file/ARTICLEIISUPERPACSTATEMENTINRESPONSETOORLYTAITZ.pdf

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  16. Indiana's response that Obama may be using an illegal SSN - "SO WHAT?"

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  17. What happened to the precedence that just recently Indiana had fired more than one politician for not being qualified. How can Id. fire someone for not being legal and then allow Obama on the ballot without any evidence to the contrary?

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  18. @Anonymous

    "Total nonsense"

    Actually there are rules to be followed to certify court testimony. Orly didn't follow the rules and therefore it is hearsay. Same thing with the school records and the ssn records. She needs to get them authenticated first.

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  19. I am not an attorney nor have I spent much time with Indiana Code, but a review shows the following:

    If a party fails to attend or participate in a hearing then a default order is required under IC 4-21.5-3-24 Sec. 24. Failing to issue that order, the administrative judge may be subject to disqualification under IC 4-21.5-3-9 Sec. 9 (d)

    http://www.IN.gov/legislative/ic/code/title4/ar21.5/ch3.html

    1) Attorney's, is my understanding correct?
    2) If yes, time is of the essence.

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  20. This was pretty good, well worth listening to.

    "You don't ask questions of us" - Indiana thug. Who is this guy? Who in the hell does he think he is? I live in Indiana. I am embarrassed by these people sitting in judgment. But just remember this is the same state where the Democrats went to Illinois for weeks to avoid a vote that would take away some of their power base.

    As an Orly critic, she redeemed herself a bit today. Although her whining and crying doesn't help. And her holding up a portion of the tax form not required to be filed didn't help either. These people are ready to pounce on anything wrong...why give them any ammo? Why doesn't she get this? We need another SERIOUS PROFESSIONAL attorney making these cases.

    I particularly liked this exchange:
    "This man is a criminal" - Orly.
    "One more disrespectful outburst like that you are gone". - Thug

    BTW linking to a transcript would be helpful. We need NAMES of these people.

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  21. @Anonymous

    The problem is the only evidence the State Court actually provided was the State Court, in it's ruling, stating that her "evidence" was nonsense.

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  22. LOL! "Orly Taitz has the heart of lion!"

    And the brains of a tin can.

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  23. OMG this is unfrickin'believeable! I'm so angry and so sad right now, may these IN board members or whoever the hell they are someday realize that they HELPED destroy our Republic!

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  24. These election boards can give a hoot and hell about the merits of these complaints. The goal of these election boards is to stamp out the birther issue with abusiveness and allegations and not allowing "The People" to speak. This is exactly what we saw today in Indiana. No interest in the complaint, a intense bias and protection for Barack Obama, A flurry of meaningless allegation and innuwendo and an intense hatred for the birther movement.

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  25. "Daniel Dumezich is the head of the firm’s federal tax controversy practice and a partner in the Chicago office. " the Chairman of the committee - from his online resume.

    When listening to this when did the case seem to steer 100% against Orly? I thought when she held up the tax form. This guy pounced on that like a lion in waiting. And made a convincing point...how can anything be trusted when this document you say is authentic isn't?

    Could this have been planned? The one area this guy knows, read his resume, is federal tax forms. And the one thing Orly holds up is a federal income tax document that isn't? Smell test is starting to fail again.

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  26. @Anonymous

    You have now proven to me beyond a shadow of a doubt you are an Obot.

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  27. Someday, we will remember that Orly Taitz took a stand for the freedom of our country.
    Sad thing is, I'm afraid it will be too late.

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  28. @Anonymous

    It is Standard Operating Procedure to issue a default judgment for the plantiff or a dismissal for the defendant whenever the oppossing party fails to appear in court.

    What they did in GA and IN is practically unheard of!

    It clearly shows extreme bias or favoritism towards Obama.

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  29. @Anonymous

    Orly lost to AN EMPTY CHAIR AGAIN!

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  30. @Anonymous

    Obama failed to appear and failed to produce a valid copy of his alleged birth certificate!

    The only "nonsense" that occurred here was their refusal to grant a default judgement in favor of the plaintiffs!

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  31. @Anonymous

    no, the actual statute gives the admisitrative judge discretion. He may or may not grant a default.

    Section 4-21.5-3-24 Default or Dimissal

    Section 24. (a)(3) ...the administrative law judge may serve upon all parties written notice of a proposed default or dismissal order,...

    See the word may?

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  32. @bn

    Actually, it wasn't that she was calling him a criminal. It was that she was stupid enough to accuse the very group deciding the outcome of covering up.

    Orly:...This man is a criminal, ma'am and gentlemen, and you are covering up forgery and Social Security --

    MR. DUMEZICH: Whoa, whoa. Let's stop. Stop right there. Present your case. We're not covering anything up. We're allowing you to speak your mind and putting it before the commission. If you're disrespectful like that one more time, your butt's going to be gone. You got that?

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  33. @Anonymous said:
    "Indiana's response that Obama may be using an illegal SSN - "SO WHAT?""

    The following would be more accurate:

    Indiana's response to rabidly Islamaphobic California dentist CLAIMING that Obama may be using an illegal SSN - "SO WHAT?"

    When the cited source (Orly Taitz) is included -- rather than just repeating an unsupported fact -- the reply of "so what" becomes so much more reasonable, don't you think?

    And what's her basis for making that claim? None whatsoever. Did she bring an official representative from eVerify to corroborate her search and explain what their 'no result' codes mean? No she did not. Did she bring a SSA official to testify that the only way a Hawaiian can get a Connecticut number is through fraud? (Which isn't true, by the way.) No she did not.

    Not one thing she says has any legal basis. "So what" is the kindest response possible.

    We should get real lawyers out there with real information about Vattel and Minor. I've had enough of this childish incompetence and it looks like the States have too, one-by-one.

    I'm going to be really pissed if it turns out Sheriff Joe has been sitting on something more solid all this time.

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  34. @Anonymous @ 4:36

    "Not only did the lady not give any explanation whatsoever why such evidence was hearsay, the board summarily and flatly rejected sworn evidence from a state court. Orly attempted show the relevence and the proper authetication of her evidence but the board would have none of it."

    __________

    That's because the "lady" -- an attorney, as were the other three members of the commission -- expected Orly to know what hearsay is and how to authenticate a document. The lady should not have to teach Orly what the law and the rules of evidence are. She had every right to expect that someone who makes a BFD of calling herself "ESQ" should damn well understand what is hearsay and what is not.

    Just because the same "evidence" was represented to another state's court does not make it admissible, authentic or credible. All is means is that is was offered in another court. Why did Orly omit from her packet what the Georgia court said about the so-called "evidence"? The judge thought as little of it on January 26 as the four attorneys who are Commissioners thought of it today.

    Orly has no clue what it means to "authenticate" evidence. It means that the original author of the statement in the document has to testify that yes, he wrote that, it was his document. It means that the recordkeeper for the Indonesian school has to testify that the document is, indeed, a record maintained by the school in the regular course of it business, and would have to testify about who wrote the statement and from where that person obtained the information. The State Department is the only party that can authenticate a State Department record.

    So, no, Orly did not -- and could not -- "authenticate" a blessed thing she was presenting. The commissioner's told her that the SSN crap is not relevant to whether Obama was born a citizen, so no, Orly did not demonstrate the relevance of her so-called "evidence" to anything under Indiana law.

    Orly met her match today -- four real lawyers who actually know law. They called her out on her shit.

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  35. @Anonymous"Wow! This is one totally corrupt board; corrupt to the bone. This election board is worse than New Hampshire. Absolutely Biased! No one is willing to listen to anything. This board makes the New Hampshire board look like saints.
    Anyone with a brain can tell just by listening to the audio that the commission was completely biased towards Obama and had their mind made before any word was ever spoken. Orly put forward her case, the commission essentially IGNORED it citing no valid or legal reason to do so. This was an absolute display of corrupt and bias and these board members are lower than dirt."

    Couldn't agree with you more. The whole thing makes me sick! I guess the rule of law, the Constitution, and We the People are nothing to these dictators. All I can say is, keep it up fellas, you're gonning to have rebellion on your hands and it won't be pretty!!

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  36. @Anonymous @ 5:03

    "I am not an attorney nor have I spent much time with Indiana Code, but a review shows the following: ..."

    ________

    Damn right you are not an attorney. This proceeding today was not before an administrative law judge, so the statute that you cited has no relevance.

    This was before the Election Commission, which has its own rules, and those rules states that the commission "MAY" grant a default but nevertheless must still continue to make a determination. Remember the part where they denied the default? Well, that is because "MAY" does not mean "SHALL", so they were under no obligation. They ruled, as was within their authority.

    You are a p*** poor armchair attorney who knowss*** about the law, so give it up.

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  37. And why did they not wish to enter a default judgement. From the hearing today, it is absolutely clear on the answer -
    The election board had extreme and intense bias and protection to Barack Obama. The election board has extreme hatred and despise for the birthers. It's the only reasonable explanation I can come up with.

    PROTECTION OF BARACK H. OBAMA

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  38. Rejoice comrades, this confirms you can commit identity theft without prosecution. You can be whoever you want to be, at anytime. Need to clean a tainted driver record?Just file your id as barry soetero everywhere. It's legit. You have total permission from DoJ, State level justices, and any other law enforcement agency. Especially if you are an illegal now don't worry you can be president someday. Wow what a great country. Total freedom from any laws.

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  39. The reason we have courts and hearings is so that disputes can be impartially and fairly settled. If there is justice and fairness then there is a chance both winner and loser may go home in peace.

    That is a promise of civilization. That is justice.

    But when hearings or trials are rigged and corrupt, there will not be peace.

    In a fair trial, the loser may not be happy but will accept an adverse decision. But in a travesty like this, the goal is not justice -- it is to publicly violate and victimize the loser. Only a saint could accept this treatment without a deep, unremitting anger and distrust transcending the original issues.

    The Indiana board members betrayed their public trust as impartial decision makers. They have poisoned their own nest. They have made their world a worse place than it was yesterday.

    "If you want Peace, work for Justice". Simple and true.

    What fools they are.

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  40. @Anonymous

    Obama is a criminal and they are trying to help him cover it up.

    Stategically it was not a smart thing to say but I admire her courage and her candor.

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  41. Anon @ February 24, 2012 5:47 PM
    Yes, right.


    Anon @ February 24, 2012 6:14 PM
    I asked a question, why such hostility?

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  42. @Anonymous

    They may have ruled within their authority, but it was clearly wrong, and it clearly showed bias against the plaintiffs and favoritism towards Obama.

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  43. @A Real Lawyer

    "a real lawyer's" case would have gotten dismissed too, just like it got dismissed in GA.

    Don't you see they are going to use any excuse to dismiss these cases?

    It's got nothing to do with Orly Taitz and everything to do with political corruption.

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  44. Our saving grace may be Sheriff Joe Arpaio. If his report is what birthers are hoping for, then it will finally be the only official authoratative body that has looked at all the evidence. Sheriff Arpaio's report will then be the basis of filing dozens of ballot challengs both in the Primary and the General Elections.

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  45. Anon @ February 24, 2012 6:14 PM

    Please see, Chapter 4.1. Indiana Election Commission

    Sec. 25. "Power to hold hearings and issue advisory opinions"

    The commission may do any of the following to administer Indiana election law:
    (1) Hold hearings under IC 4-21.5.


    IC 4-21.5 is what I cited to.


    see IC 3-6-4.1-25 at http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title3/ar6/ch4.1.html

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  46. F Lee Bailey and the dream team wouldn't have made a difference.

    Give Orly credit for her courage and determination.

    She was nervous and English is not her first language.

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  47. @Anonymous

    Thanks for the correction for their exact words. I didn't feel like listening to it again. And yes she was stupid for saying that. In transcript form the chairman looks reasonable. But he came across as a thug to me.

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  48. "Do you realize if the man uses the wrong Social Security Number . . . it's fraud!"

    Answer: "So what? Take it to the House of Representatives."

    Yes. A bloodless coup. Pure and simple, a bloodless coup.

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  49. If the Commission thinks Orly disrespected them then you would really think they would consider someone not showing up being challenged to prove their credentials to be on the ballot even more disrespectful?

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  50. Anon @ February 24, 2012 7:35 PM

    A clear demonstration of bias.

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  51. It is interesting that board at several times during the hearing felt that Orly and her clients were being disrespectful even to the point of removing a person and taking a recess. Orly reminded the election board that Obama had refused to show up. They demanded a default judgement against him which the board flatly denied. It should be noted that the greatest show of disrespect to a court or hearing is failure to show. It should be noted that this great disrespect did not go unnoticed to those who were following this hearing.

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  52. Yankee: So they told her exactly where to take her allegations -- the House of Representatives -- the ONLY group empowered to take action. That's in the Constitution, you know!

    If I were an Obot, I'd be pissed as hell that they're HELPING her by telling her that information. And you call it a coup. *shakes head*

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  53. @AnonymousBut people have been telling her for YEARS that the only people that can remove a rightfully sitting president from office would be the House of Representatives. In fact, IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION.

    Why do you think she keeps losing? It isn't corruption (as easy an answer that is). It's because people are targeting the wrong things.

    States have no power over a sitting president, only co-equal branches of government do. And since the House certified him as the elected president, there isn't much, short of him losing the election, that will change the status quo.

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  54. The house of reps will just treat it like a hot potato and say take it up with the courts we've seen this before I believe??? Boner just says "I take Obama at his word" He says "I believe Obama is a citizen" When it is about him not being a Natural Born Citizen.... "He says he is a Christian so I'll take him on his word that he is" (even when he (O) does and says things that go against Christian beliefs) Boner and the House are a lost cause and sadly so is all the GOP

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  55. 1) The issue is not removal of a President. The issue is ballot access.

    2) The persona and conduct of Taitz lends itself to these sort of outcomes, unjustified as they may be.

    I am not criticizing her research, dedication, etc. Few people can do everything and do them well. Presentation and procedure are not her strengths. If she had any sense she would team up with someone who will ensure procedure is followed and who is better suited to presenting the case.

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  56. Actually, the suggestion that Orly take her case to the House of Representatives is complete nonsense. This is because the election board is completely misguided and corrupt. The complaint is not about Obama the PRESIDENT, it's about Obama as CANDIDATE to the POTUS. This is a fundamental and critical difference. The 2008 election is over. This is the 2012 election and Obama is CANDIDATE on the Indiana State Ballot. The issues Orly raises are indeed relevant.

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  57. Orly presented hard evidence that Obama's identity is in question. As a CANDIDATE to be on the Indiana State Ballot, the board should have given this much consideration. Instead there response was "SO WHAT" and suggested Orly take her greviouses to the House for impeachment. The 2008 election is over. This the 2012 election. The complaint has nothing to do with the impeachment or removal of PRESIDENT Obama. This complaint has to do with the eligibility of CANDIDATE Obama. A complete world of a difference the election board failed to see.

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  58. @Anonymous

    Hundreds if not thousands of people have already written or called their congressmen (or woman) to ask them to conduct a Congressional investigation into Obama's eligibility documents.
    Every single one of the these requests have fallen on deaf ears.

    In addition, lenthy petitions and criminal complaints have been signed and sent to the FBI Director Robert Muller asking him to investigate Obama's eligiblity. These requests have also been completely ignored.

    These ballot challenges are going forward because we have already tried everything else.

    Did you really think this was the first time anyone even thought about taking our concerns before Congress?

    Do try to keep up.

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  59. OK. Time to think out of the box on how to gain our country back and quit wasting our time trying to use defunct-through-usurption system (voting, representatives, courts, and three-branch checks and balances)to fix the take over, from within, of the United States of America.

    What is the biggest threat to the NewRegime and WeThePeople's biggest asset? (Warning: This is going to take some shifting of pariadigms)

    Answer: Capitalism, ie. Business.

    We are looking for a leader to take the country back -- look collectively at business. And start the takeover from a whole different angle than expected. We pick the fight. We pick the battle.

    If 70% of businesses in this country were confident WTP had their backs and collectively announced something like, "As of April 15th, we will no longer act as tax collectors for the Internal Revenue Service. We will no longer be taking wages we pay our employees and turning them over to the IRS or any government agency.

    Then collectively the businesses announce ten regulations they will cease following and then cease doing them.

    Think on this. Without the businesses collecting monies, how fast before a flat tax would be imposed which would include the demand from WTP/businesses (and Congressmen and Senators because they would see who has the power--WTP, not Washington) for all wage earners, even low-income, to pay the flat rate. This would increase the amount taxpayers and increase the number of persons with a vested interest in wanting the rate low. The ripple effect would be great. This may not be the exact answer but there is something here to work with. WTP need to give the power and strength of our numbers to our biggest asset--Capitalism. What would happen if the Regime tried to punish 70% of businesses that had the support of 50% of the taxpayers? What would the government do if they knew 70% of companies would close down, with the workers permission if any company was punished?

    Are we putting our energy and time and money in the election/Washington system when we could be crossing George Washington's Delaware?

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  60. Soebarkah
    Soe is a common Indonesian prefex
    Barkah is the Indonesian form for Barack

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  61. This is how we feel in Ga also, we have no judicial system anymore. the Judge in this case set a new precedent by threatening all parties. I was obvious they had their mind made at the beginning of the trail. I hope the people of Indiana go after everyone of them legally and discharge them from ever holding office in that state. We now have a DICTATORSHIP. Welcome to the Communist States of America we no one in government has any integrity. It's a sad reality.

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  62. @Anonymous

    Yes, I saw the weasel word MAY long before the hearing even occured.

    It is still customary to grant a default judgment to the plantiff when the defendent does not show up for court.

    It is also customary to hold that defendant in contempt of court and to issue a bench warrant for their arrest if they have been properly served.

    These Administrative Judges did neither.

    Instead they showed extreme favoritism towards the defendant and hostility towards the plaintiff.

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  63. @Anonymous

    This was a hearing as was the Georgia Adminsitrative HEARING. The material from Georgia was from a hearing NOT a state court.

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  64. This commission dealt with 3 and ONLY 3 things - Is Obama an NBC (In state court sez - yep,

    Next Is he over 35 years old. - yep

    Has he resided in the US for 14 years.
    That is all they are looking at.

    Orly can screech all day long about crimes, but this hearing has no jurisdiction concerning criminal matters. That is job for the criminal justice system.

    Orly didn't get a default as she never proved ANYTHING. It was on her to disprove any of the above 3 items. Social security??? doesn't mean squat.

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  65. @suedb

    It was from an Administrative Court in the State of Georgia and it was a State Court.

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  66. @Anonymous

    They could not file contempt charges this was not a court of law. It was also a civil matter not criminal, so no bench warrants. How do you know they were properly served.

    Does anyone know if Rick Santorum was at the hearing today? His ballot challenge went first.

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  67. It's starting to look more and more like states seceding is going to be the only option. The Constitution that I and millions of other wore the uniform to support and defend is dead. Those of us that revere the Constitution and liberty are the minority, just as it was preceding the Revolutionary War. Half of this nation, to include the Obots, posting on here are nothing less that traitors of the Constitution. They are spitting on the graves of the millions who have fallen in war protecting this nation. This is like a bad nightmare.

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  68. The Marxists have done their work well. Decades of infiltration and subversion of the schools and universities have created generations of brainwashed professionals in all areas of our society. They are "cultural marxists", they have been taught the Constitution, Honor, Truth, the American Way don't matter any more and can be ignored. The termites have brought down the house while the occupants went about their daily business, unaware the thousands of tiny insects knawing away at it's supporting structure. There are many real Americans left but at this point they have hold no positions of power or influence. The Media / Hollywood / Propaganda Machine turn out Millions of brainwashed "Bots" while the last generation of real Americans dies off. The future is totalitarian oppression, collapse and third world squalor. Unless...Unless...

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  69. Taitz was informed at the very start that Obama's social security number, legal or not, was not relevant in this particular proceeding.

    So, of course, she spent almost her entire allotted time talking about the social security number.

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  70. @Anonymous

    AND PLAYED A ROLE IN GETTING GEORGIA A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT!

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  71. zerO never provided any documents to prove his age, residency or citizenship. Again, the state trooper wants a valid license handed to him at the time of the infraction, not a link to a pdf that is on your facebook page. zerO scores another slamdunk from the locker room, never even put on a jersey.

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  72. "Anonymous said...[Reply]

    @suedb

    It was from an Administrative Court in the State of Georgia and it was a State Court."

    No, it's not a state court, it is an administrative tribunal and a member of the executive branch, not the judicial.

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  73. "Someday, we will remember that Orly Taitz took a stand for the freedom of our country.
    Sad thing is, I'm afraid it will be too late."

    You don't understand a single thing about the dentist (or, you do, and you're just immoral). Orly Taitz is taking a stand for Orly Taitz (not freedom), and she truly believes that, one day, we should all honor her collectively on National Orly Taitz Day.

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  74. None of the crap that Orly screeched at the commission was accepted as evidence. It was as if she never showed up. The challengers didn't prove their case, so it was denied. Simple as that.

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  75. @Anonymous

    Perhaps Judges in civil matter cannot issue a bench warrant for a failure to appear but they can still hold the defendant in contempt and impose sanctions.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_court

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  76. I remain a bit outraged that each of these various "venues, forums and jurisdictional bodies" feel it unnecessary to include the Statutory Construction of the Constitutional expression of POTUS eligibility while constraining their deliberations to unresponsive "local" laws, rules and regulations" that are WHOLLY incomplete and incompetent in regard to the needs of the Article II Section I Clause V "exclusionary prerequisite imperative requirement" that NO person EXCEPT a natural born Citizen SHALL be ELIGIBLE..........what part of THAT statute is not worthy of deliberations on the merits of any given persons being in conformity with its needs...?

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  77. On the admission of evidence from the Benchmark Insittute For Social Justice.

    "In most administrative hearings, lack of foundation will not keep an exhibit out of evidence, but will go to the weight of the evidence, that is, how much weight the hearing officer will give the evidence. Advocates should strive to lay proper foundations for exhibits in administrative hearings to heighten the exhibit's credibility."

    Read More Here...

    http://www.benchmarkinstitute.org/t_by_t/exhibits/introducing.htm

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  78. mr. Santorum floated to the top at the hearing. He's a go as well a Mr. Lugar

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  79. A sincere salute to all "REAL PATRIOTS" who have rallied to Orly's defence.

    Maybe Mr. Haskins can use all the money collected and allegedly "SPENT ON ADVERTISEMENT" for the now "DEFUNCT BIRTHER SUMMIT" and use it to hire a real attorney like LARRY and show Orly how it's done. All that rip into Orly will surely donate generously. I know BN will! Take your time on this now, there's no real hurry..! You can start planning for it now and bring it to a head maybe this time next yr. or so. If it doesn't work you can always blame Orly. (BN will buy it!)


    All that RIP Orly are SCUM SUCKING INGRATE COWARDS..!

    AND part of the problem.

    God bless and keep Orly and her family.

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  80. suedb = New OBOT TROLL passing through!

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  81. Did Obama present a certified copy of his birth certificate? The answer is No.

    Did Obama present evidence or introduce any legal precedent that was admissable to the court which established that he was a NBC? The answer is No.

    What submitted evidence did the commission use to determine that Obama met the qaulifications to be a candidate for the office? The answer is None.

    Would the supporters of Obama blindly accept corruption and treason and destroy liberty and justice for all? Sadly, the answer is Yes.

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  82. derlicition of duty is a serious crime. We have seen the punishment meeted out in the military as well as in medical fields. IS there no recourse for a blantent disregard for the law by judges along the line of derliction of duty? This commision was flagrent in its disregard for it role.

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  83. Anyone have a link for a transcript?

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  84. Orly ORly ORLy ORLY
    Get rid of ORLY. She is POISON. she is not a NBC of USA. She ALWAYS LOSES. She is no lawyer. she is a disgrace. Everyone in the movement must learn to use good lawyers and get away from this piece of junk.

    Orly is a NBC of Russia. She is a Natural Born Communist. You know. Like Obama who was born into a Marxist Communist Family. Obama is loyal to Marxism not to America. Wake up folks. Orly is a Communist Advance Agent to break up our cause.

    Use NBC Lawyers like Mario Apuzzo to win.

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  85. Check out County Sheriff Project.org
    A band of Sheriffs will attempt to do what congress won't do. Gosh, we can't even get an explanation as to why he was still using a Conn. Soc. Sec. number in 2010???

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  86. The IN Election Board basically said to Orly,[paraphrased here]...."We don't care what crimes Obama has committed, we like him, so get the hell out of here."

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  87. So what if he doesn't have a valid ssn? Are these people serious?

    Do they not have any clue that all US citizens have a valid sun?

    God help us.

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  88. Here Is An Interesting Quote From Represent Yourself In Court: How To Prepare & Try A Winning Case, Written By Attorneys Paul Bergman & Sara Bergman. Publisher NOLO 7th Edition, Chapter 1, Page 16.

    “ALJ’s (Administrative Law Judge’s) do not normally have to follow the rules of evidence that govern court-room trials. For example you can (emphasis added) offer hearsay evidence.”

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  89. Actually, without "investigating" her evidence, no court has EVER been given the "authority" to call it nonsense! (This is where judges are veering way off course!)

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  90. Attorney Larry Klayman will be bringing a case SOON. He has "won" many court cases--and it CANNOT be said that HE does not know the law or procedure! This one will be VERY INTERESTING! We'll see how the courts and election boards TRY to "refute" Klayman's evidence and testimony!

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  91. @Anonymous
    "Hundreds if not thousands of people have already written or called their congressmen (or woman) to ask them to conduct a Congressional investigation into Obama's eligibility documents.
    Every single one of the these requests have fallen on deaf ears.

    In addition, lenthy petitions and criminal complaints have been signed and sent to the FBI Director Robert Muller asking him to investigate Obama's eligiblity. These requests have also been completely ignored.

    These ballot challenges are going forward because we have already tried everything else.

    Did you really think this was the first time anyone even thought about taking our concerns before Congress?

    Do try to keep up."

    That's because there is no credible evidence to support any charges against Mr. Obama.

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  92. @Anonymous

    "What submitted evidence did the commission use to determine that Obama met the qaulifications to be a candidate for the office? The answer is None."

    You still don't get it. this was the worst state to file a challenge. The Commission members were very aware of the Ankeny decision. They didn't need any other evidence.

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  93. @Anonymous

    "but they can still hold the defendant in contempt and impose sanctions."

    From your wiki link:

    A person found in contempt of court is called a "contemnor." To prove contempt, the prosecutor or complainant must prove the four elements of contempt:

    Existence of a lawful order

    The potential contemnor's knowledge of the order

    The potential contemnor's ability to comply

    The potential contemnor's failure to comply

    There was never an order from the court for the President to be present.

    I know the judge denied the Motion to Quash but he never order the PResident ot appear. And the plaintiffs never filed a Motion to Compel.

    What they should have done, is first ask for a continuance and seek a Motion to Compel from the Superior Court. A subpoena is not a court order.

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  94. @Anonymous
    "Actually, without "investigating" her evidence, no court has EVER been given the "authority" to call it nonsense! (This is where judges are veering way off course!)"

    What evidence is there to consider? Evidence of fraud and/or crimes does not actually disqualify one from the Presidency. You have to look at it from the view of the courts - they can't decide matters not in front of them.

    While we may not want to elect someone who is suspected of fraud and/or crimes, those accusations do not in themselves disqualify someone from the Presidency.

    The courts specifically look at the laws, and apply them as necessary. Since there the Supreme Court has held that there are only two paths to citizenship (birth and naturalization) any legal scholar worth their salt is going to find that someone born here qualifies to run for the presidency. There simply is no other way to read the ruling in Wong Kim Ark.

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  95. @Anonymous

    They had already decided to throw the case out before Orly opened her mouth to say word one.

    IMOtThey are all guilty of contempt prior to investigation.

    Justice was flatly denied.

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  96. It is all relevent until we find out what and who the sonofabitch is. Do you still not think the U.S. is not under a communist coup? There is a storm a brewing,that would be where Americans go to D,C. and throw these treasonous bastards out in the street. Read whitehatsreport for more,as you will hear nothing from our media.

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  97. Nobody has mentioned that Dumezich, the chairman of the Indiana Election Commission, is also the Republican chairman of Mittens Rmoney's campaign in Indiana.

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  98. King Louis XIV and Marie Antionette.

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  99. Administrative hearings are usally much more informal than courtroom hearings and the rules of evidence are generally much more relaxed.

    As a Campus Police Officer I had to testify at many administrative hearings through the Student Judiciary. Colleges often prefer to handle minor infractions of the law "in house" as a disiplinary matter rather than as a criminal matter. The courts generally are just as happy to allow them the discretion to do so primarily because they don't want a lot of pidally little alcohol or drug related incidents filling up their dockets.

    Campus Police Officers often prefer this type hearing because it is much easier to get a conviction. These cases are decided based upon a preponderance of the evidence rather than having to prove the allegations beyond a reasonable doubt.

    I also once was the plaintiff in an Administrative hearing involving my local Unemployment Office, this was due to a disputed unemployment claim. I had quite a job with good cause. That is I had been repeatedly promised a promotion but everytime the position became availible I was passed over and the job was given to someone else.

    Finally I quit the job and appealed their decision to deny me unemployment benefits. After I filed my claim, I was called in to testify before an adjudicator. The adjudicator presumably also contacted my former employer to get their side of the story. Then they set a date for a hearing. On the day of the hearing I showed up, but my former employer did not. I was immediately granted a default judgement and was determined to be eligible to collect my unemployment benefits.

    This is normally how these types of hearing go when one side fails to appear for their hearing. Nobody tried to throw my testimony out as "hearsay evidence", and no one tried to twist the the facts so that they could rule in favor of my absent employer. That would have been unheard of!

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  100. Damn Obots got audio and actual video of the hearing and all we gots is a lousy audio pasted on a few lame stills? No wonder we're losing!

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  101. Excuses, excuses.

    That's all you birthers have.

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  102. @Anonymous @ 9:46

    Soebarkah
    Soe is a common Indonesian prefex
    Barkah is the Indonesian form for Barack


    Source for "Barkah is the Indonesian form for Barack" please. Prove it.

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  103. And Orly's biggest complaint was that tere wasn't any media clamoring to interview her afterwards.

    Kind of tells me that she is in this more for the attention she can draw to herself than anything else.

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  104. A wild Orly appears.
    Orly uses "Derp!" it isn't very effective!
    Sanity uses "OHKO" it is super effective!
    Orly has fainted.

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  106. is a civil pretrial the same? I mean if a person doesnot show at a Pretrial should a bench warrant be issued? Is bari's no show not a contempt charge? Is this considered a Civil suit? I am confused.

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  107. wheresobamasbirthcertificate.comFebruary 25, 2012 at 7:40 PM

    Bullshit Indianna. www.wheresobamabirthcertificate.com

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  109. Does anyone know if this hearing can be appealed?

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  110. The Obsolete Man Written by Rod Serling

    A large board with a long table and humongous podium. On the side of the room are many government officials robotically and sequentially next to each other. At each end of the table is a microphone with one end having seat with a State secretary. Above the secretary, is a podium with the State Chancellor Standing at top with a grip of files and his own microphone as well.

    Secretary: Wordsworth, Romney, Obsolescence. (Turning to Chancellor) He waiting, Chancellor.

    Chancellor: Order him in

    Secretary: Wordsworth, Romney, Obsolescence.

    (A feeble man walks through two large doors. Behind him are other people awaiting their fate in a waiting room. As the two doors close, he is led by a guard to his microphone. His eyes have a look of confusion, awe, and fear as he looks around the word. The Narrator's voice comes over the scene.)

    The Narrator, Serling: You walk into this room at your own risk, because it leads to the future; not a future that will be, but one that might be. (Camera pans to Narrator)This is not a new world: It is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advancements, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: LOGIC IS AN ENEMY, AND TRUTH IS A MENACE.

    (Camera switches to the convicted man) This is Mr. Romney Wordsworth, in his last forty-eight hours on Earth. He's a citizen of the State, but will soon have to be eliminated, because he's built out of flesh and because he has a mind. Mr. Romney Wordsworth, who will draw his last breaths in the Twilight Zone.

    LIFE IMITATES ART!!
    VIDEO: http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/26229/The_Obsolete_Man___The_Twilight_Zone/

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  111. "Anonymous said...[Reply]

    @Anonymous

    Perhaps Judges in civil matter cannot issue a bench warrant for a failure to appear but they can still hold the defendant in contempt and impose sanctions.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_court"

    When someone fails to appear before a court in a civil matter, perhaps that will happen. So far that is not the case.

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  112. Why do most people here, of all places, keep referring to the "Connecticut SSN"? when the issue is the SS# is not Baracks. Why not say, the SS# of so-and-so? Why not say he is using someone else's SS#. People don't see fraud and identity theft because it keeps being the big story that the number is from CT. Although that is true it is the issue. The issue is not that he has a SS# from CT but never lived there. The issue is he is using a SS# issued in CT to another person FIRST. Anyone who keeps focusing on it being from CT, I no longer give credit as on the team to nail BHO. They are consistently trying to frame the story to keep it from being obvious, with facts that he is using someone else's SS# and started using it shortly after the man died. So simple yet this site's posters won't say that. What side are you on?

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  113. Apparently I have been laboring under a misconception,I was thinking that " Ballot Eligibility Hearings" were what was submitted to both Georgia and Indiana but apparently it is really just a card game called "Fish".So when we ask Mr.Obama "Do you have any documentation to verify who you claim to be ? Mr.Obama simply alludes to the fact,that we must "Go Fish !"

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  114. BREAKING NEWS:

    Indiana gets unlimited oil drilling permits and weavers on clean air and clean water regulations!

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  115. Why do (allegedly) smart Patriotic Americans continue to file suits and attend ballot challenge hearings USING EXTINCT (no longer in effect) US Constitutional Laws ?? Under OBAMA, the Constitution has been eliminated, is NOT in effect, and these judges & hearing officials have zero obligation to even consider it !!
    The solution to resolve a coup against the USA is detailed in those Old Papers. This is NOT hard. Stop wasting your time arguing with Marxists.

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  116. This Article Is Worthy Of Your Consideration

    From The Post & E-Mail

    Obama Syndicate Plans Imminent Takeover of USA by Islam and Globalists

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2012/02/26/obama-syndicate-plans-imminent-takeover-of-usa-by-islam-and-globalists/

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  117. This Article Is Worthy Of Your Consideration

    From The Post & E-Mail

    Obama Syndicate Plans Imminent Takeover of USA by Islam and Globalists

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2012/02/26/obama-syndicate-plans-imminent-takeover-of-usa-by-islam-and-globalists/

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  118. @anniemouse
    "is a civil pretrial the same? I mean if a person doesnot show at a Pretrial should a bench warrant be issued? Is bari's no show not a contempt charge? Is this considered a Civil suit? I am confused."

    Both the Georgia and Indiana meetings were "HEARINGS" they were not "pretrials."
    Failure to show up for an admistrative hearing simply meens that the hearing officers enter their opinion without hearing your side of the issue.
    That is a "default order."

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  119. @Anonymous It's going to take an "AMERICAN SPRING" to make them answer!!!!---- a MARCH ON DC!!!!

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  120. @Anonymous ARE you American??? Orly Taitz has shown more patriotisim than AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!

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  121. "Anonymous said...[Reply]

    Why do most people here, of all places, keep referring to the "Connecticut SSN"? when the issue is the SS# is not Baracks. Why not say, the SS# of so-and-so? Why not say he is using someone else's SS#. People don't see fraud and identity theft because it keeps being the big story that the number is from CT. Although that is true it is the issue. The issue is not that he has a SS# from CT but never lived there. The issue is he is using a SS# issued in CT to another person FIRST. Anyone who keeps focusing on it being from CT, I no longer give credit as on the team to nail BHO. They are consistently trying to frame the story to keep it from being obvious, with facts that he is using someone else's SS# and started using it shortly after the man died. So simple yet this site's posters won't say that. What side are you on?"

    Who was it issued to first? I've asked Orly several times. She says does not know.

    An outier number on the form "1890" does not in itself prove the number was ever issued prior.

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  122. @Anonymous
    "Apparently I have been laboring under a misconception,I was thinking that " Ballot Eligibility Hearings" were what was submitted to both Georgia and Indiana but apparently it is really just a card game called "Fish".So when we ask Mr.Obama "Do you have any documentation to verify who you claim to be ? Mr.Obama simply alludes to the fact,that we must "Go Fish !"
    ---
    According to Orly Taitz, both on her blog and in an interview at worldnetdaily.com, Obama's attorney, Michael Jablonsky submitted copies of Obama's birth certificate for Judge Malihi in Georgia and for Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp. Taitz claims that they were hard copies and not internet posted scans of the long form.

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  123. Anonymous at 6:15 AM the 26th --- You are absolutely right!

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  124. University of Baltimore Law Review, Vol. 21, No. 1, 1991


    Abstract:
    It is generally accepted that the rules of evidence governing the admissibility of evidence in a trial are not applicable to administrative proceedings. However, there are numerous inconsistent court opinions on the proper role of hearsay in administrative decisions. This article offers an analytic framework to provide predictable guidance to the administrative agencies, the courts , and litigants on the issue of the proper use of hearsay in administrative adjudications. The first factor to be considered is the nature of the claim or issue involved. Next, the agency should consider the nature of the evidence presented. The third factor to be taken into account is the identity of the absent declarant. Under the fourth factor , the availability of the absent declarant and the usefulness of cross-examination should be considered. The final factor to be considered in the proposed framework is the nature of the agency and its adjudicative hearings.

    It is also proposed that procedural safeguards be implemented to protect a party's right to test the reliability of hearsay evidence. One suggestion is a system of prior notice in which the party intending to offer hearsay be required to provide notice before the hearing. Also, if an agency's decision does rely on hearsay, the losing party should have the right to request that the record be re-opened and given the opportunity to subpoena and cross-examine the adverse hearsay witnesses.

    Implementation of these proposals should be adopted as administrative procedural regulations.
    State administrative agencies should be permitted to rely on hearsay in their decisions. The proposed analytic framework will allow for these adjudicatory proceedings to remain efficient, and help provide improved judicial review.

    Read More Here

    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1338144

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  125. “BREITBART ON OBAMA: I’VE GOT VIDEOS….THAT NOBODY HAS SEEN”

    Katie Pavlich
    News Editor, Townhall
    Feb 11, 2012 08:19 AM EST

    “ObamaCollegeGate on the way? Yesterday during his speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference, Andrew Breitbart gave the audience and C-SPAN viewers a preview of what’s to come during the 2012 general election against Barack Obama. He said the mainstream media refused to vet Obama in 2008 and that he will not go unvetted in 2012. Breitbart says he has videos of Obama in college that nobody has seen. Considering he’s the man who took down ACORN and Anthony Weiner, this could be good.”

    A Must See Video about “Obama” starts at about 5:20 here:

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/02/11/breitbart_on_obama_ive_got_videosthat_nobody_has_seen

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