Sunday, May 1, 2011

Obama's Apparent Long Form Birth Certificate Fraud

A very clear, easy-to-understand comparative analysis

Analysis by Pro Graphics and Special Effects

UPDATE: For what it's worth I will go on record as confirming the authenticity of the analysis on the video birtherreport provided beneath my analysis. I did exactly the same thing demonstrated in the video from exactly the same downloaded document and got precisely the same result. Remember, those "B"s were supposed to be made with a manual typewriter. The fact that two letters match up right to the pixel is *** absolutely impossible*** for a legit copy of a typewritten document, especially one from that era.

By sophisticated process-enlarging the image and comparing them on a sub-pixel basis they STILL line up as identical. This cannot happen. It isn't a million to one as the video states. It's a billion to one - or more.

Surely the FBI and CIA must know this and see it. Their techniques of and technology for forensic analysis are far greater than anyone in the public sector.

You cannot have two different scanned letters supposedly originally made with a manual typewriter line up to the pixel after sub-pixel analysis. It's forensics 101. It's impossible.

That, the layers, and in my mind the very obvious lack of any physical aging of the document of which the one presented is supposedly a copy, this is lining up to be a very, very obvious fraud.

The problem is the press hates this issue and wants to destroy it to protect Obama. We can only hope Trump hires some people of very recognizable esteem who are willing to claim authorship the the examination results to do what we have all done and expose this fraud publicly.

We can speculate on how it came to be, but the reality is that what the White House put up simply isn't a real copy of an original 50-year old typewritten document. This is graphic analysis/forensics 101. It simply isn't possible by any law of averages that anyone understands. This is a fake.

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BONUS: Video Update: Obama Birth Certificate Forged - Absolute Proof Presented Here! 04/30/11



Confirmed: Democratic Party of Hawaii would not certify in 2008 that Obama was constitutionally and legally eligible for the Office of President -Details here. 

Notre Dame Professor Charles Rice: Obama's eligibility could be biggest political fraud in the history of the world; time for a new approach -Details here. 

Attorney Mario Apuzzo: All presidents born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur and Barack Obama, met the “natural born Citizen” criteria. -Details here. 

Commander Charles Kerchner: List of U.S. Presidents - Eligibility under Article II Grandfather Clause (GFC) or Natural Born Citizen (NBC) Clause or Seated due to Election Fraud -Details here. 

Jack Cashill Discusses Obama's Fraudulent Social Security Number Reserved for Connecticut Applicants -Video here. 

Detailed reports on Obama's SS# can be found here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Visit the Birther Vault for the long list of evidence against Hawaii officials and all of the people questioning Obama's eligibility; [http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/video-ltc-terry-lakins-attorney-on-cnn.html].
Whose CT SSN is President Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama Using? Wash Times Natl Wkly 25 Apr 2011 pg 5

83 comments:

  1. BREAKING NEWS! (I think)
    HAVE YOU SEEN THIS!!!!!

    COULD THIS BE THE REAL SMOKING GUN - OR IS IT BAD INFO??
    COULD SOMEONE COMMENT AND EVALUATE THIS BREAKING INFO...??

    http://obamacrimes.com/?p=1541
    Could this be the Real Obama Birth Certificate?
    (AMERICAN COLB WITH KENYA STATUS...)

    http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/
    REF. FROM obamacrimes-vid.
    IMAGE OF Obama’s real Birth Certificate?
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    ANOTHER GOOD LINK!
    ALSO LOOK AT THE POST BY THE Obama Researcher - IN THE COMMENTS!

    "OBAMA WAS BORN IN COAST HOSPITAL IN MOMBASA KENYA. HE IS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN A CITIZEN OF USA. HE WAS BORN ON BRITISH SOIL TO A BRITISH FATHER WITH A MOTHER TOO YOUNG TO GIVE HIM AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP AT THE TIME IF BORN IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY."

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/30/guide-to-what-is-wrong-so-far-with-the-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/
    Guide to What is Wrong (So Far) with the Obama Long-Form Birth Certificate

    BEST REGARDS!

    A

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  2. That is a fake BC...

    The law cited at the bottom wasn't in effect until 1982...

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  3. OK!

    Thanks!;)
    A case of Bad info - then....

    Best Regards!

    A

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  4. "That is a fake BC...

    The law cited at the bottom wasn't in effect until 1982..."

    How was the debunking done? Is the law on the copy here:

    http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/os-real-colb.jpg

    The same as what was on this when it was first released, (wherever that was)?

    The easiest way to debunk this otherwise logical and real appearing BC is the law being wrong. How was it determined the law was wrong, not by som Hawaii DOH representative I hope?

    Someone went to a lot of trouble to make a convincing looking BC to then not check the date of the law referenced.

    Perhaps it was intentional to muddy the waters, but I hope it has been carefully reviewed to see if the debunking itself can be debunked.

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  5. Just a thought: i almost fell for the birth certificate at the “Aloha Reporter” i don't remember seeing it before and maybe i did but then forgot about it, but now its all over the place on the blogs. When Obama released his so called long form birth certificate he was laughing joking and was thinking end of story with the birth certificate issue, was he so wrong! If and that is a big IF this birth certificate from the Aloha Reporter builds up steam and more and more people see it, you are going to have many question saying which is the real birth certificate the one from Aloha Reporter came out in March 18, 2010 Obama's came out in April of this year,the problem is that they both almost look the same. This will lead to much confusion about which one is real, of course if the media puts in their two cents and start showing Aloha Reporter birth certificate and telling people its fake some will believe the media but many wont because they don't trust Obama. Talking about both the Aloha Reporter and Obama's long form birth certificate fake or real either way the birth certificate wont die any time soon....so keep smiling, laughing and joking Obama because all that will go away because more and more American people are learning the real truth about you and when they do lets see how funny you think that will be.

    Stay safe Obama because theirs a cold jail cell at a prison waiting for you and all your friends...

    Rob

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  6. That was so funny, Obama and others totally harassed you birthers at the correspondence dinner. You birthers are officially the laughing stock of the world... Doesn't that just piss you off that you can't do anything about it?

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  7. Can any of this be possible? You have the read the whole article. The bottom portion is most interesting.

    http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/

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  8. Would you expect anything less from a room full of 98% liburds?

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  9. @Anonymous
    KEEP PEOPLE PLAYING AROUND WITH "BIRTH CERTIFICATES" --KEEP THEM FROM FOCUSING ON THE REAL ISSUE-------
    --THE BRITISH NATIONALITY ACT--- AND THE UNITED STATES' COMPLETE RECOGNITION OF AND RESPECT FOR ITS RIGHTFUL aka NATURAL AUTHORITY IN THIS CASE

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  10. Where is Congress? Hello out there House Reps. Where is the Congressional Investigation of this document? Americans should be outraged, and yet there is nothing. Have we all lost our collective spines?

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  11. @ObamaRelease YourRecords

    If you are not aware tomorrow Gary Kreep is before the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

    If this statement by Kreep is true, Obama is a NATURALIZED citizen at best...

    “He said he traveled to Pakistan in the 1980s, but on what kind of passport? He said he didn’t have a U.S. passport until he was senator in 2004,” Kreep said.

    http://ramona.patch.com/articles/obamas-birth-certificate-gary-kreep-conservative-ramona-attorney-continues-fight

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  12. @Anonymous
    I couldn't care less that a bunch of cup-drooling idiots are laughing at me. Hell, you morons laugh at drying paint and the smell of your hands after you scratch your asses, too. Cup-drooling idiots are like that.

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  13. Lol, birthers the laughing stock? Obama is the biggest laughing stock this country has ever produced. The guy has no freaking clue what he is doing.

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  14. oryr / is the attorney orly taitz or and gary kreep taking the donald trump birth certificate to court with them tomorrow morning in ca. to be compared beside the forge piece of trash obama has released ?

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  15. I'm not a lawyer but I'm not sure if evidence can be submitted at oral arguments. I believe only evidence that was submitted in the lower court case can be used in the appeal.

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  16. It's obvious that the "anti-birthers" (quote the Huffington Post) are still extremely nervous about this issue, coming to places like this to convince "birthers" to drop the issue for their own good.

    1. Since when did the left ever do anything for the good of the right?
    2. I thought the issue was dead and didn't matter. I thought it was a non-starter. Yet from TV pundits to message board trolls, we keep getting the same message/question: "You're going to drop it now, right? It's over now, right?" If it was truly hurting the right and not Obama, they'd do what they did when the GOP was ready to elect McCain as a nominee: stay quiet or give their nod of approval (knowing in McCain's case he could have been knocked over with a feather).

    This new document is, in my opinion, a pathetic fake. And the left wing media knows it, hence their anxious, sometimes animalistic expressions of demands that the issue now be dropped.

    I wonder, also, since Obama does not have time for this, if he will drop the lawyers defending his original records and let those suing him for those records win by default and release them, since, according to Obama, he "doesn't have time for this silliness"?

    Keep on. This is in no way finished. That much is clear.

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  17. The Aloha Reporter BC would explain the "African" on the short-form COLB because it list Barry's father as Negro-African. It also contains signatures that could be verified, along with names of people who may even be still living. Has it been debunked by tracing down those people who signed it?

    OK, supposedly the date of the law is wrong. It stikes me as strange that someone who is usually aware of anything happening in the birther, world, me, has only in the last couple of days become aware that this BC existed. It also fits with, (possibly), the Lucas Smith Mombassa, Kenya BC. Show me the debunking, who did it and how. I am starting to think this is the BC that is mentioned in Corsi's new book. Perhaps the release of the Aloha BC, kept very quiet for a long time, prompted the Obama BC release of a few days ago. I am hoping investigators have traced down the names and information on the Aloha certificate to determine for certain it's validity.

    If it is valid it sure makes a lot of things fall right into place.

    There is no way this is going away...sorry Bots!!

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  18. Sorry to say, but I think Obama Sr.'s immigration records provide additional evidence to rule out a Kenyan birth. He had no money. It would have been prohibitive to take Ann back to Kenya just to deliver the baby, and for what purpose?

    I think it's more effective to focus on all the other records that have been hidden, and the Social Security problem.

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  19. I've been thinking about that and have come to the conclusion that those who are behind this usurpation of the Executive Branch of our govt have intentionally released disinformation to confuse those of us trying to follow the story and put it all together in a way that makes sense and also to lead those performing formal investigations off the actual trail and down wrong paths to dead ends. Either the bits that support the Kenyan birth theory or the bits supporting the illegitimate birth theory are disinformation because they don't jibe. I think the time I spent reading through the Heather Smathers FOIA release were time wasted on disinformation. Why this release on not the Kenyan birth bits? Because this FOIA release is alleged to have been withheld from the public by the Boston Globe for two years and because the alleged source of every piece of its contents originate from a federal govt agency or agencies, whereas the quotes and news pieces supporting the Kenyan birth theory are from many different sources and people. Also, the Kenyan birth theory can actually be supported by an abstract birth certificate like the one presented last week by the White House. (I'm looking for the link to the article that explains how and I'll post the link as soon as I find it.)

    Did The Standard - Kenya Online Edition, June 26, 2004, lie when they reported that "Kenyan-born Obama All Set for US Senate?" Or...

    ...Grandmother Obama when she said she was there in the delivery room in Kenya when Obama was born.

    ...Snopes.com online 'Fact Checker' when they said that Barack Obama Was Born in Kenya-see 21 Apr 2008 Snopes Article.

    ...AP-NewsTimesOnline-Ghana News, Nov 4, 2008, reported that "A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitered on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rival, Senator McCain."

    ...Uganda Monitor, Feb 16, 2008, reported that "Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan-born Senator Barack Obama for the US Presidency."

    ...The Nigerian Observer, Nov 4, 2008, reported that Senator Obama was favored to win, but "[t]he Kenyan-born Senator will, however, face stiff competition."

    ...Modern Ghana News, July 2009, in a report on Barky's trip to Cairo, "the first ever African-American President on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth."

    ...During the Kenyan National Assembly of March 25, 2010, when the Minister of Lands, James Orengo said. "If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?"

    ...During the Kenyan National Assembly of Nov 5, 2008, when Ms. Odhiambo said, "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour. I, therefore, seek leave of the House that we adjourn to discuss the issue."

    Were all of these news organizations and Kenyan government officials liars when they said Barky was born in Kenya (or on the continent of Africa)?

    It's more likely to me that the documents in the FOIA, supposedly received by the requester over two years ago, have been altered or fabricated.

    These statements of Barky's birth in Kenya are from Mario Apuzzo's collection of statements and articles: http://www.scribd.com/collections/2441535/African-Official-Government-Records-News-Accounts

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  20. BREAKING!!!
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    For what it's worth I will go on record as confirming the authenticity of the analysis on the video birtherreport provided beneath my analysis. I did exactly the same thing demonstrated in the video from exactly the same downloaded document and got precisely the same result. Remember, those "B"s were supposed to be made with a manual typewriter. The fact that two letters match up right to the pixel is *** absolutely impossible*** for a legit copy of a typewritten document, especially one from that era.

    By sophisticated process-enlarging the image and comparing them on a sub-pixel basis they STILL line up as identical. This cannot happen. It isn't a million to one as the video states. It's a billion to one - or more.

    Surely the FBI and CIA must know this and see it. Their techniques of and technology for forensic analysis are far greater than anyone in the public sector.

    You cannot have two different scanned letters supposedly originally made with a manual typewriter line up to the pixel after sub-pixel analysis. It's forensics 101. It's impossible.

    That, the layers, and in my mind the very obvious lack of any physical aging of the document of which the one presented is supposedly a copy, this is lining up to be a very, very obvious fraud.

    The problem is the press hates this issue and wants to destroy it to protect Obama. We can only hope Trump hires some people of very recognizable esteem who are willing to claim authorship the the examination results to do what we have all done and expose this fraud publicly.

    We can speculate on how it came to be, but the reality is that what the White House put up simply isn't a real copy of an original 50-year old typewritten document. This is graphic analysis/forensics 101. It simply isn't possible by any law of averages that anyone understands. This is a fake.

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  21. "It's obvious that the "anti-birthers" (quote the Huffington Post) are still extremely nervous about this issue"

    Let me get this straight. 80 birther court cases in two years, not one success for you. The only legal VICTORY you had in Arizona VETOED. Every law enforcement agency in America siding with obots and arresting birthers (Leo Haffey, Lakin, Walt Fitzpatrick and others) -- Every main stream media on our side. The GOP leadership distancing themselves from birthers. Now what exactly do we have to be nervous about? Please explain. I'm a willing listener.

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  22. Online 'birth certificate' document 'was changed' - Analysis raises possibility content of text was altered -

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=293421

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  23. ORYR: If I had promised to pay out 15 grand when the long form was released like Joseph Farah of WND , I sure as hell would be calling it fake as well to get out from having to pay... LOL

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  24. Farah never claimed it was fake... He stated it would have to be examined.

    By the way, any idiot with a lick of sense can see the recent document is worse than the first two they posted online.

    Where's the hospital generated one from 1961?

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  25. P.S.,

    $15,000 is a drop in the bucket for WND...

    But have fun continuing to defend a complete fraud.

    Obama's newly released altered "document" has created many more birthers... LMAO

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  26. Missy Johnston, DDSMay 1, 2011 at 3:26 PM

    @Anonymous

    AND THERE YOU HAVE IT!

    THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR! HE NEEDS TO COME OUT AND JUT TELL THE TRUTH TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!

    He is not a US citizen.
    He's actually an ALIEN.
    His parents are from some unknown place that's out of this world.

    Wait! Didn't the Roswell, NM crash landing happen around the time of his birth? Oh wait, he wasn't actually born. He was hatched I think. Yeah, hatched in that alien space craft that crashed in Roswell those many decades ago. But in order to coincide with the birth announcement in the Honolulu paper they had to keep him frozen until 08/04/1961.

    He should just pull his skin back and unveil his truth. He's GREEN with huge eyes and three long fingers on each hand. And he wants to harvest us all for his home planet. They'll be coming for us soon.

    Mark the date. May 12, 2011. Every one of you TEA Party delusional birthers better put the aluminum foil on your heads before those alien ships get here and probe you all.

    They want to study the stupidest people on planet EARTH.

    Ha!
    And of course this will be screened and deleted before posted because anything that exposes the absurdity and ridiculousness of these conspiracies will forever and always be a thorn in the side of those who try to deceive the masses.

    But you can admit it was a fun read!!

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  27. I am noticing a pattern here: the "anti-birthers" don't want to discuss the topic of the threads concerning the forensic analysis of the released birth certificate. They are posting about other things. That suggests an attempt to change the subject. That's funny, isn't it?

    I have a very strange suggestion: how about if the anti-birthers stay on-topic.

    By the way, the "layers" analysis I see everywhere is missing an important point: accidental layers usually pull the document apart in a random mix of elements. The layers here show each layer contains complete words. That is something else that never happens by accident. Just like the lack of aging on the document, which is the most obvious thing of all. It's absolutely astonishing that an even biased press is giving this thing a pass. It's unbelievable.

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  28. @Missy Johnston, DDS

    Your Alinsky tactics will not work...

    Keep defending the fraudster...

    This issue has nothing to do with Obama's U.S. "citizen" status...

    The issue is regarding Obama's "natural born Citizen" status and multiple document fraud including Selective Service registration, social security, and numerous COLB's...

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  29. Hi, Missy. You are a perfect example of the liberals of 2012: a smarmy, sarcastic, superior minded asshole. This is why you lost in 2010. Nobody is going to listen to an asshole. That's my analysis. Have a nice day.

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  30. TO RECAP MY ANALYSIS:

    The "birth certificate" the White House put forth is supposed to be a copy of a paper, typewritten document approximately a half-century old, but contains not a single suggestion whatsoever of any aging, let lone like the severity of the documents to which it has been compared like the Trump and Nordyke birth certificates.

    No matter what reproduction method used, the aging would be apparent somewhere in the document. The rest of analysis of what we see elsewhere online is good, but the aging is the very first thing you look for. There is not a single suggestion of aging. However, the gray edges of the pencil marks are apparent! For the gray terminators of the pencil marks in the copy to be apparent but the copy to be free from indications of any aging whatsoever on the original document is absolutely, 100% impossible. This is forensics 1901. The birth certificate the White House put forth is like a toy fresh out of the package. It cannot be what is claimed for it. Ask anyone who knows the slightest bit about graphic analysis.

    The "Obots" can say whatever they like. This is a fake.

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  31. Alinsky Tactics ? You haven't ever read that book and neither have I .. Why do you keep repeating the de facto conservative broken record talking point?

    Come up with something original for once.

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  32. How the hell do you know what I've read and have not read...

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  33. Ok, I have been resisting getting in on the forgery arguments – I believe it's worse for Obama if the BC is authentic..it means he is a sociopath.

    But I did take a look last night and I admit I noticed some of the above mentioned things, too. The stuff that most intrigued me was the type/typewriter alignment anomalies. If this record is authentic, someone repeated removed and reloaded this form haphazardly into a typewriter to complete it. MULTIPLE times. They reloaded it between the '4' and the comma in his 'date of birth?' That spacing is inconsistent within the form itself and compared to other commas. Why did they have to do that?

    And a person rests the left edge of a sheet against a guide when they load a sheet of paper into a typewriter, yet Obama's BC appears to have gone in without that guide rest from the looks of some of these 'X's' that are out of vertical alignment. Not definitive of anything, but it is certainly annoying.

    I will say that I don't find the presence of layers meaningful because I opened a different pdf produced from a scan in Illustrator and found it opened with wierd layers, too.

    That said, the most compelling anomaly I spotted happens in field #4.

    The check boxes on this form are all hand-drawn (not typewritten) so they should all be unique even in the original copy of the blank form – however, the first and second box in field #4 are exactly the same down to the pixel...and they happen to be side by side.

    These are hand-drawn squares AND from a scanned image of a photocopy AND they are side by side, yet they match down to the pixel? Hm, what are the odds?

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  34. @ObamaRelease YourRecords

    They're frightened. They can see that this brand-new appearing document is a fake of a supposedly 50-year-old document and that fear enrages them.

    All the Obama supporters are demanding that we all acknowledge that the case is closed instead of they just that assuming it is. That speaks volumes. They need to be reassured that this is going away because they know - or strongly suspect - the document is a fake. The more analysis that comes out, the more they tell us to help ourselves by forgetting about it. They're frightened and angry.

    Nevertheless, IM professional O this is a forgery.

    The analysis breaks down this way:

    1. NO AGING OF THE ORIGINAL IS APPARENT IN THE COPY, AND IT IN *NO WAY WHATSOEVER* AESTHETICALLY MATCHES COPIES OF SIMILAR DOCUMENTS OF THE PERIOD(the big, basic one for me).

    2. "ACCIDENTAL" LAYERS BROKEN INTO COMPLETE WORDS, NOT RANDOM LETTERS/ELEMENTS AS IS ALWAYS OTHERWISE THE CASE.

    3. MULTIPLE LETTERS ARE IDENTICAL DOWN TO THE SUB-PIXEL - EVEN A SIMPLE PHOTOCOPY SCAN WOULD CHANGE THE EDGE ARRANGEMENT OF THE PIXELS (meaning this was done digitally to already scanned documents)

    4. "TYPEWRITTEN" WORDS HAVE A MATHEMATICALLY PERFECT ALIGNMENT IN THE DOCUMENT (YOU WILL NEVER FIND ANOTHER DOCUMENT OF THE PERIOD LIKE IT. COMPARE IT TO ANYTHING.)

    This will all break very soon. It's all too obvious. This is a fake, and no spin will change that. Graphics students are tearing this apart. Trained and experienced graphic analytical pros can see the very obvious tale-tale signs of fakery almost at a glance.

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  35. oryr / cdr.kerchner and mario apuzzo were on the les naiman radio show from louisville ky. at 610 edt . are you going to post the program?

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  36. Once the podcast is up I plan on posting it to youtube and then here...

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  37. You can view the edit history in Illustrator too.

    It goes beyond just the layers. On the top menu in Illustrator, go to "windows>links". A panel will open. You will see several "elements" in the list. Double Click on any of them. Look at the edits/properties' history. It says "rotate: 90 degrees" and "size: 24%".
    Here's a screen shot of one.
    http://thesophic.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/obbclooks_edited7.png

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  38. 'Natural-born citizen' info vanishes off Wikipedia

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=293069

    Rob

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  39. Fox News document expert in tank for Obama? - Man claims birth certificate real, but look how he's championed president previously -

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=293685

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  40. The edit history is extremely important. This, too, is another smoking gun.


    BUT -


    I've been around photographic analysis for over 30 years professionally and the thing I'm beginning to find positively maddening is the lack of attention anyone is paying to the most basic aspect: the document is not old!!!!!

    Just because it came from the Hawaiian agency does not make it miraculously resistant to the processes of aging. Trump's birth certificate came from official sources, also. So did Nordykes. So did mine. So does everyone's. They all look old. Take a photo, scan in photoshop, use an old black and white copier - it doesn't matter. The manifestations of aging after 50 years transcend whatever manner of copying is used or the sources from which the document is from.

    Obama's has not one even microscopic manifestation of edging, while the pencil marks on the same document are clear!!!! It - is - not - old.

    The layers are important, BUT I WISH PEOPLE WOULD ALSO LOOK AT THE BASICS! This is slowly getting under my skin, now.

    FIRST AND FOREMOST: The document is pristine. IT IS NOT OLD! It's impossible for this to be ANY KIND of copy of a 50 year old birth certificate.

    Sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  41. RT - Orly Taitz States Obama Is Using STOLEN Connecticut SS Number And Provides Proof

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82eSUnA_B8&feature=player_embedded

    Rob

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  42. Is it possible to get a copy of one of the Nordyke twins BC's and do what the Hawaiian officials claim they did with Obama's? That is, scan it onto green paper? I'd like to see how that turns out.

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  43. @Anonymous

    I have a suggestion: if you have one or a family member's 45 years or older, scan it in any way you can think of on any paer. The green paper is irrelevent; I simply reversed and tinted them to make the comparison to Obama's green BC sharper the average viewer.

    Obama's is impossibly clean. No one else's will be. Yours will not. There is nothing magic about paper or even the type of document. A 50-year-old typewritten document is a 50-year-old typewritten document is a A 50-year-old typewritten document. The age. The acids go to work in the opaer. Inks fade. The machanical processes of the day are apparent. None of this is true in Obama's except pencil notations, clearly added as a circumstantial touch to make it seem legit, but they give away the fact that the aging manifestations should be as clear as the pencil marks which are very apparent. The document is clean of any aging.

    This is a fake.

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  44. Has anyone thought to gain access to the Royal Archives (I'm assuming it's in London) to see if a copy of Obama's Kenyan BC (if he were born there) exists in the archives?

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  45. The thing I just don't get, armed with unlimited funds, months of time - why would the White House release such a lousy, unprofessional forgery.
    Were they afraid of Trump?
    Afraid of the STATE lawsuits in Knoxville, Tn. (its hard for the Feds to fix a state grand jury)
    Are they so confident and arrogant left over from more than 3 years of successful voter fraud, Attorney General control, lying, stealing and US Constitution avoidance?

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  46. @Eugene Pilcher

    "why would the White House release such a lousy, unprofessional forgery."

    Theory: they were (are) afraid of being exposed by any outsiders who they would otherwise pay to do the job. From the moment I saw this I imagined it was an inside job either in the Hawaiian records of the living quarters of the White House.

    A professional would at least show some aging, but that's where the professional needs to be brought in, even if were merely a Hollywood movie prop. That's where the artistry would be brought into play, and that is where this document falls down completely. But they tried to compensate with pencil marks as a circumstantial touch to lend authenticity. Pencil marks which, since apparent, give away the fact that the medium gray areas of the aging manifestations that are within the same range that must be on the original document are NOT apparent.

    My own feeling is that this was a paranoid, inside job. Professional it isn't.

    LOOK AT IT THIS WAY: Imagine you are a movie producer. You look at dozens of birth certificates from the early 1960's to see what they look like today, because the prop is important to the storyline. You give all these different forms of copies - including Trump's and Nordyke's - to a graphics specialist and say, "It needs to say such and such and look like the same time period as these samples". A week later the graphics specialist you hired to create the important prop which will be featured in a dramatically important close-up comes back and shows you Obama's birth certificate as posted on the White House website. Do you pay him and accept the job or do you have a different reaction?

    Don't take my word for it. Make a copy of your own birth certificate. Does your copy look as 100% brand new as Obama's, or does it look like a new copy of an old document? Use a home printer/copier. Then come back here and describe in what ways it does not look like Obama's. I'll bet it looks very much like Trump's or Nordykes and very much less perfect than Obama's. Don't take my word for it. Go for it.

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  47. http://www.hindustantimes.com/Nuke-hellstorm-if-Laden-caught-or-killed/H1-Article1-689415.aspx
    Nuke hellstorm if Laden caught or killed’
    Washington, April 25, 2011
    Al Qaeda terrorists have threatened to unleash a “nuclear hellstorm” on the West if their leader and world’s most wanted terrorist Osama bin Laden is nabbed. A senior al Qaeda commander has claimed that the terror group has stashed away a nuclear bomb in Europe which will be detonated if bin Laden i
    s ever caught or assassinated, according to new top secret files made public by internet whistleblower WikiLeaks.

    Rob

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  48. Don't want to go off topic, but there is something the media will spin as a win for Obama...


    BIN LADEN IS DEAD! BUT FOLKS HE'S BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS!


    From Infowars...


    "President Barack Obama is set to address the nation momentarily regarding reports that Osama Bin Laden is dead. He was reportedly killed in Afghanistan. More on this as the situation develops."

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  49. Two posts trying to make you forget the details of this thread and take the thread severely off topic.

    They're absolutely terrified of this issue, people, or they wouldn't both.

    The birth certificate is an obvious fraud. Stay on-topic!

    Make a copy of your own birth certificate and see if it looks as clean as Obama's, or much more like what it is, a new copy of an old document, like Trump and Nordyke's. Take the test yourself. And tell everyone else to do the same. We can prove this in the court of pubic opinion when everyone else has a new copy of an old document of their birth certificate and only Obama's looks 100% brand-new clean and perfect.

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  50. I talked to an document/computer expert tonight (one who has one of the most well-known videos out)and one of the anomalies that I had not heard until tonight was that the Obama document was not using tabs (used to type documents speedily and efficiently). Tabs would be routinely set in the typewriter for those who routinely type these documents over and over. NO TABBING! Everything was manually positioned!

    Please visit my blog: giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com for all the info re: Obama's crimes.

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  51. How's this for a conspiracy theory...

    US kills bin laden...
    Obama says lets release the forgery....
    I'll announce four days later...

    Then they will look terribly foolish for claiming it is a forgery!!!!

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  52. @giveusliberty1776

    100% true. No tabs. Very basic. That's one of the typewriter manifestations I was talking about. The mechanical tabs should produce a perfect alignment of the characters one over the other. It's all over the place.

    This document appears certainly to be a fake.

    Thanks for the link.

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  53. @Anonymous

    I think we're all thinking that, actually. This weekend thousands of people have been pulling apart the birth certificate. Obama is snubbed at the royal wedding. It's all falling apart. Obama has this announcement in his hip pocket for a week, chooses now to release it so he can bury the news story himself with this announcement.

    In the Clinton era it was dubbed "wagging the dog". It doesn't sound unlikely at all. In fact, it all fits right in place, unfortunately.

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  54. Wow!! Obama's a citizen and he just killed Bin Laden. Bad week for the racis...whoops, I mean "birthers." Obama 2012, suckers!!!!!

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  55. He may be a "citizen" but he sure the hell isn't a "natural born Citizen"...

    And the last I checked the last time Obama was in Pakistan was in the early 80's...

    It was U.S. Forces that "killed" bin laden, NOT Obama... Obama was busy golfing and drinking it up with the press...

    Thanks to Armed Forces... Not the usurper squatting in the White House... Don't you forget that!

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  56. Obama did nothing to kill Bin Laden remember Obama wanted our military to pay for their own health care.Thank our are men and women of the U.S military who did the job....now Obama bring them back home!!!.......
    Rob

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  57. I don't know, am i missing something? But I don't see any kind of seal on the so-called Obama long form certificate. Can someone point out where I should be looking, or why it is missing?

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  58. @Anonymous

    @Anonymous "Have we lost our collective spines?"

    Newly elected Repub Gov. are making sure we at least lose our collective bargaining. Now do you get why it's so important that we stand together?

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  59. ORYR:

    http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/the-odds-are-racist/

    Enjoy!=)

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  60. @Anonymous
    "Wow!! Obama's a citizen and he just killed Bin Laden."

    What? Was Osama bin Laden found on a golf course, dead from a 9-iron to his head?

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  61. "I don't know, am i missing something? But I don't see any kind of seal on the so-called Obama long form certificate."

    No kidding. One of many glaring omissions in the lame birth certificate he posted. It really is a terribly childish fake. That, the aging of the document, even an explanation as to why he chose now to release it when he has been fighting like hell to keep it hidden for 2 1/2 years instead of acting like an innocent, bemused bystander would be nice.

    You aren't missing the details; you're discovering them, and it's not a pretty picture.

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  62. @Anonymous
    LOL! All of that from an idiot who, without knowing it has anything to do with Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, uses the Alinsky-inspired tactic of ridicule because that's what all the other lefturds do.

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  63. There will never be a way to prove Obama's BC is a fact based on review of a digital document. And, does anyone actually believe that Obama would not have the resources to have an actual typed document created?

    The way this will be proven to be a forgery, is by the fact that the person who typed it, wasn't familiar with typing the form.

    I've seen 5-6 other long form BC's from that time from, and EVERY one of them had the data in the left side form fields start at the left side margin. Many of the data fields on the left side of Obama's, the typist inserted spaces from the margins (and not even the same amount of spaces). No one experienced with typing out forms on a typewriter would do this!

    The way this document will be proven a forgery, is to show that whoever typed out the form, had no other experience typing out that form.

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  64. What people can start doing now is contacting Trump's people at the contact page/form at www.shouldtrumprun.com

    http://shouldtrumprun.com/contact-us/

    and if nothing else give them the address for this specific page. On this page you have, ultimately, several different approaches to analysis of the document, from my own on the aging (or lack thereof) to the layers to the video detailing the repeated "B" (which is truly astonishing that anyone would be stupid enough to take such an obvious shortcut in the forgery knowing that the whole world would be pouring over every pixel of this document).

    Donald Trump so far has had the courage of his convictions on this. Presumably he has his own people on this, but additional information cannot hurt, and if they get e-mails with links to this page in large numbers, they may pay closer attention to what is contained. His own people may miss something here. Certainly a couple of TV "experts" have missed the most glaring aspect: there is not one indication that any form of aging on the original document was picked up in the copying process, which is statistically impossible for a 50-year-old document.

    Once again, make a copy of your on birth certificate if you are old enough and compare them. You'll be shocked at the difference.

    The contact page at "Should Trump Run .com", operated by Michael Cohen, Trump's right-hand man:

    http://shouldtrumprun.com/contact-us/

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  65. Missy Johnston, DDSMay 2, 2011 at 3:19 PM

    @ObamaRelease YourRecords

    @ObmaRelease YourRecords

    I am not defending Obama. There is no need for that. He's a big boy and can fight his own battles clearly - (bin Laden!)

    I am simply pointing out the idiocracy of this whole agenda. Have you seen the movie Idiocracy? Synopsis: The world has been "dumb-ed down" to the point of being a planet full of idiots. Not concerned with things that REALLY MATTER but rather trivial nonsense.

    Honestly, if our president were not a Natural Born Citizen he would not have been vetted. Anyone who believes he is not eligible to lead our country based on his place of birth OR his school transcripts must have very little faith in the intelligence of our whole government.

    I am not saying now you all should lay it to rest. No. You all can keep yourselves distracted with this whole birther issue- it's actually quite funny to see it all play out.

    But our so called "news" media needs to move on to more pressing issues.

    Has everyone forgotten the people in this country still needs jobs?

    We still have our brave soldiers fighting two unnecessary wars and we need to bring them home.

    We still have a huge deficit to work on.

    There is also the issue of poor regulation where it is needed most.

    Our education system is increasingly worse -(we could be headed for an idiocracy moment if we do nothing to improve our schools).

    So, by being side tracked by the whole birth issue is a distraction. Our president has more pressing issues to attend to. Like getting Osama bin Laden!! Now that he can check that one off the list he can move on to jobs, jobs, jobs.

    And one great way to create jobs is to write legislation that requires our federal and local governments only purchase goods made in the USA.

    It is MORE ABSURD that those lapel flag pins worn by our congress are made in CHINA than people not knowing if our president was actually born on US soil. Don't you want your tax dollars to buy goods made right here in this country? I do. It's patriotic, it keeps the money circulating in our own economy and it creates jobs.

    If you've got some ideas on how to create jobs let's hear them. But to waste your time focusing on a lie meant to distract you is silly.

    You can go on if it makes you happy but me- I will focus my energies on getting this country working again.

    I am not against anyone who needs a paycheck to carry out their daily lives. I am against anyone distracting us from politicians turning our government over to corporations. That seems to be the agenda of every politician pounding this birth certificate issue in our face.

    We can continue to bicker or we can come together and get in the face of these politicians and let them know we are watching them and will hold them accountable for their political actions.

    Let's see what happens next.

    Missy~

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  66. @Missy Johnston, DDS

    Missy,

    The CRS(congressional Research Service) already admitted on the record that Obama was not vetted.

    Federal agencies don't vet presidential candidate in any, way, shape, or form. The political parties(DNC/RNC) are supposed to do the vetting.

    Why do you think the DNC cert. forms for 2008 had "constitutionally eligible" removed from Obama's certification forms?

    Funny how the only state to receive a cert. form for Obama with the constitutionally eligible wording in it was Hawaii.

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  67. The Armed Forces "got Osama"... Not Obama... Unless Obama was in Pakistan...

    Last I checked Obama was last in Pakistan in the early 80's and was on the golf course yesterday...

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  68. Missy,

    Let me explain how the system worked in 2008: There was one person alone responsible for certifying candidates as being eligible to run for President, and that person is the Speaker of the House: in that case, the corrupt, socialist, baggage-laden Nancy Pelosi.

    The CIA and FBI are authorized only for criminal investigations, and in the matter of vetting for constitutional eligibility all departments of the US government, FBI and CIA included, are under the authority of the Speaker of the House. Look it up.

    You will notice that McCain was vetted very strenuously, with Obama himself as a senator signing the document that made McCain eligible, based, mostly, on the fact that McCain's parents were *both* US citizens, which Obama's were not.

    That is how the process works. That is how Obama got a pass. Neither Obama not Pelosi have ever been the brightest bulbs on the marquee. They thought they could get away with it. As another article here at this website shows, so did Bill Clinton.

    The birth certificate is a fake.

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  69. In the printed stamp at bottom is a word that should be THE but appears to be TXE. Anybody commented on this?

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  70. It appears to be the letter X but if you zoom in real close you can see it is H...

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  71. Obama's BC looks real to me.

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  72. Everyone should photocopy and/or computer scan their own 45+ -year-old birth certificate (or a parent's or grandparent's) and then compare them to Obamas to see if Obama's looks like a genuine copy of a 50-year-old document.

    All of America can prove it for themselves. It's easy. They should.

    Obama's birth certificate: Fake. Big time.

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  73. @Anonymous
    As promised in the comment I left May 1 at 2:28pm, here's the link to the piece that explains how the Kenyan birth theory is actually supported by an abstract birth certificate like the one presented last week by the White House.

    http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/out-of-order-obamas-non-sequential.html

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  74. @Pro Graphics

    Somewhere there is dead forger in for this terrible piece of work.

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  75. @Anonymous
    If Obama had it his way we never would have the intel to kill Osama since it was obtained by waterboarding. Obama's action would be to say "pretty please, tell us what you you know".

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  76. "@Pro Graphics

    Somewhere there is dead forger in for this terrible piece of work."

    ***********************************************

    I actually disagree. Your point is taken, and there was that informant in Chicago found in his car in a parking lot with a bullet entering the back of his skull, but my own feeling is that if they hired someone, it wouldn't be so unbelievably piss-poor.

    Once again, imagine you are a movie producer who needs a prop of a copy of a 50-year-old birth certificate. You provide the graphics person with several samples, and a week later he comes back with what the White House posted. Hire this guy again or fire him?

    I really think that in either the Hawaiian records office or the living quarters of the WH someone semi-schooled in this, someone so close to Obama that they could be absolutely trusted, put this together. Or the WH got the legit one from Hawaiian records and altered it.

    There is another article on this site about Clinton's scandal. Think also of Nixon's Watergate tapes. John Kerry and the "Monkey Business" affair. The list of high-power US politicians doing the unthinkable is practically endless. Why should anyone trust that Obama's birth certificate miraculously looks absolutely brand new while copies of other old birth certificates look like copies of old birth certificates?

    Yes, those of us trained in graphics analysis can make these things very over-complicated. I can throw around program names and pixel aspect ratios and cite the numeric gradients of the gray scales, cite the terminators and gray scale of the pencil marks against an average of the gray-scale manifestations of the aging on other documents from a similar era, enlarge the image with intelligent enlargement programs and compare areas on a sub-pixel basis using the curve of the blending feature of the enlargement against the raw image enlargement to make an additional determination of the likelihood of a fake (and I have done) and in all respects do a very complex analysis. But the longer I look at this thing the more clear it becomes to the point where I cannot believe any average citizen cannot see it; it isn't complicated. It is not a new copy of an old document. It is a new copy of a new document. Anyone can see it.

    Copy your own birth certificate and compare it to Obama's. Look as new and fresh as Obama's? I'll bet not. And please do. Don't just take these words on face value as an argument. As a person with a long history of image analysis I can tell you that ultimately it really is that simple. Actually make a copy on your home printer (most have a copy feature these days). Look at it. This isn't magic. If it looks old and you understand that, then the analysis is done. The forgery is that simple and amateurish.

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  77. There are many other cases of identical letters in the PDF. I found three u's that were identical.

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  78. It's public opinion pressure we're after. It's the only thing that will move this mountain. Duplicate letters is a great thing in court, and to show to forensics people who can lend the weight of their esteem to their authored analysis. But for the rest of us who want to remain anonymous or do not have the training, the best answer is also the simplest ("occum's razor")and it goes like this: Obama's true birth certificate must be 50 years old. Obama's birth certificate does not look like all other 50-year-old birth certificates. Conclusion: Obama's is not a true birth certificate.

    It is not old, therefore it is a fake.

    That is something even a child can understand. We need to keep this simple or the obots will have us comparing pixels the way they had us debating constitutional law for three years. We need to wrap this up, now, and that means keeping it simple. Don't allow them to manipulate you with endless circular logic and rabbit holes. Running out the clock is their only option. Don't let them.

    It's not an old birth certificate. Therefore it is a fake. Keep it simple. Let's wrap this up.

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  79. This kid is good!

    Episode 1
    http://www.youtube.com/user/orangegold1#p/u/3/7s9StxsFllY
    Episode 2
    http://www.youtube.com/user/orangegold1#p/u/2/JT0Tpf1IhxA
    Episode 3
    http://www.youtube.com/user/orangegold1#p/u/1/9eJx7jsPV44
    Episode 4
    http://www.youtube.com/user/orangegold1#p/u/0/nW_PWzhgvDs

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  80. IMPORTANT
    ******************

    There are lots of analysis around of the BC, including my own. The series of videos posted by Anonymous, above, is by far the best. Send a link to Trump. I also suggest that Birther Report give this series of videos it's own thread.

    He doesn't mention aging, unfortunately (which is something that's driving me crazy after 30 years of this work), but when it comes to pulling the rug out from under the whole BS about layers automatically being generated by the copying process, he nails it. He also has additional examples of more discrepancies.

    All together now, can you say, "Nixon/Clinton"?

    Obama is done for on this. It can only be a matter of time.

    This series of videos is by far the best evidence presentation so far. Why doesn't The View have an expert on with a computer and go through the process. Think they'd do it if it was about George Bush?

    Episode 1
    http://www.youtube.com/user/orangegold1#p/u/3/7s9StxsFllY
    Episode 2
    http://www.youtube.com/user/orangegold1#p/u/2/JT0Tpf1IhxA
    Episode 3
    http://www.youtube.com/user/orangegold1#p/u/1/9eJx7jsPV44
    Episode 4
    http://www.youtube.com/user/orangegold1#p/u/0/nW_PWzhgvDs

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  81. That's the best analysis yet, including my own. Very good. He doesn't mention aging, which drives me out of my mind, but he dispells the automatic layer myth and shows some terrific analysis of the pixels.

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  82. Appears that birthers totally ignore the original white copy of the birth certificate released by Associated Press ...of course they all can only see what is presently in front of them, have no knowledge of how to conduct unbiased research or link any claims to sources. How do they conduct their real lives, or do they have real lives???

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