Wednesday, April 13, 2011



[update] As reported here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here; Montana, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Indiana, Connecticut, Missouri and Iowa are pursuing legislation that will require presidential and vice-presidential candidates prove they're Constitutionally Eligible. The Arizona legislation just passed HB 2177 in the Senate and it now moves on to the Arizona House and then to Gov. Brewer for her signature. Hat tip to GUL for the heads up and Jeff for the email update from Arizona. The HB 2177 legislation can viewed here. The complete overview here.

Via Jeff: Most of you know, we have been working on this bill for two years. Passed with 21 of 30 votes today in Senate. On to the House next week where we need 31 votes to pass it and if it makes that, final step is on on to Gov. Brewer for signature.

FOR THOSE OF YOU IN ARIZONA, PLEASE HELP BY CALLING ARIZONA HOUSE REPS AND EXPRESS YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. MAKE SURE THE SECRETARY'S TAKING THE CALLS SAY THEY WILL PASS YOUR SENTIMENTS ON ON TO THE REP. YOU CAN GET THEIR NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS AT www.azhouse.gov -Thanks, Jeff -snip-

UPDATE: Atty. Taitz reports: I got a phone call from Lyle Rowland, sponsor of the presidential eligibility certification bill in Missouri.The bill finally passed the committees and is going to a full vote of the house this week or next week. Demand that your state representatives and senators vote for the bill.

I got a phone call from Leo Berman, Texas state senator, sponsor of the presidential eligibility certification bill in TX. Mr. Berman is extremely upset with members of the committee refusing to vote on the bill. They just seat on it, while they know that majority of of the state representatives and senators are willing to vote for it. Call each and every committee member and demand scheduling of the bill for vote tomorrow, immediate passing of the bill. Demand answers, whether committee members received some consideration or were intimidated into not bringing the bill to a vote. Call public integrity of unit of the office of the TX Attorney General Greg Abbott and demand immediate investigation, whether committee members received any consideration or we re intimidated into not bringing this bill to a vote. -snip-

Notre Dame Professor Charles Rice: Obama's eligibility could be biggest political fraud in the history of the world; time for a new approach -Details here. 

Attorney Mario Apuzzo: All presidents born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur and Barack Obama, met the “natural born Citizen” criteria. -Details here. 

Commander Charles Kerchner: List of U.S. Presidents - Eligibility under Article II Grandfather Clause (GFC) or Natural Born Citizen (NBC) Clause or Seated due to Election Fraud -Details here. 

Jack Cashill Discusses Obama's Fraudulent Social Security Number Reserved for Connecticut Applicants -Video here. 

Visit the Birther Vault for the long list of evidence against Hawaii officials and all of the people questioning Obama's eligibility; [http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/video-ltc-terry-lakins-attorney-on-cnn.html].
A Catalog of Evidence-Concerned Americans Have Good Reason to Doubt Putative Pres Obama Born in HI
Obama Ineligible! 14 Mar 2011 Washington Times National Weekly edition - pg 5

25 comments:

  1. California Birther/Dualer/DoubterApril 13, 2011 at 3:05 PM

    The bill looks damned good to me -- just what we need. I see it allows for the secretary of state to do whatever is needed to ensure the candidates are natural-born citizens. I presume that includes demanding that they provide proof that both of their parents were U.S. citizens at the time of the candidates' birth. If it passes the House and the governor signs it, that'd make for one helluva poke in the eye of the feds. I'd think the feds would then pull off another chicken-shit stunt to thwart the will of the people. Do that and they can bet The Donald and a million or more folks will come marchin' into Washington to tell the foreign jackass usurping the Oval Office: "PAPERS PUHLEEEZE!"

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  2. Are you telling me, that if signed into law, we then have to wait until the election to see if it has any teeth? We have an illegal alien in the White House and needs to be dealt with now.

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  3. I think there are 39 republicans in the AZ house. 31 in favor seems probable, unless there are defectors - all the dems will vote no. Anyone have a feeling for the possibility of success? Will Brewer sign it or bail?

    If this passes it will not get a whisper in the MSM. What will Obama do? Sue? Avoid Arizona?

    Don't hold your breath. Unless Trump is going to be a serious candidate and wises up soon and starts asking the right questions, yeah - you're gonna have to wait for the election to see if a state has done anything and if even that will matter.

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  4. Eligibility verification just 1 vote from governor

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=286677

    Rob

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  5. Going to be immediately struck down in court because it violates the constitution's FULL FAITH AND CREDIT CLAUSE... You lose again birthers.

    Mark my words it'll happen. It's no conspiracy - it just means you're full of shit and YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR WAY DISENFRANCHISING voters. Voters tend to get murderous if you try that. We will wipe you out if you try that.

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  6. "DISENFRANCHISING voters"

    LMAO...

    Piss off delusional obot...

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  7. California birther/dualer/doubterApril 13, 2011 at 8:34 PM

    Hey, you disenfranchised leftist loon, how do you think the birthers have been feeling after a fast one was pulled on them? You just do not play games with the Constitution. Don't blame us -- we're not the ones who drank the Kool-Aid; instead point the finger at the guy who sowed all this discord simply by childishly refusing to level with those whom he works for. If he is unable to do so, then that's too bad; perhaps he shouldn't have run for the presidency in the first place.

    Since he failed to earn our trust that he doesn't have something to hide, then excuse us for doing something to ensure that this treasonous act doesn't happen again. For now, it looks like you and your ilk are about to be Trumped by not only Arizona, but also Oklahoma: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=286677

    Whoooo hooooo!

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  8. Exclusive: Trump to Announce His Run for President

    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/donald-trump-run-president/2011/04/13/id/392790

    Rob

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  9. @Anonymous April 13, 2011 6:32 PM

    Hey OBot-Turd, the federal government does NOT even follow the "FULL FAITH AND CREDIT CLAUSE" when issuing passports to people. The State Department does not take the Hawaiian COLB as proof of citizenship OBot unless you are in Hawaii LoL.

    See here:

    "Why short forms fall short

    Joseph Farah

    March 22, 2011

    I recently conducted a little experiment. I called three passport offices with the following apocryphal tale: I said I needed to apply for a passport but only had a short-form certification of live birth from Hawaii. Would that suffice? The three passport offices I contacted were in Hawaii, Washington, D.C., and Virginia.

    Hawaii said "no problem."

    Washington and Virginia both said no way.

    Same country, different responses.

    In fact, if you visit most post offices around the country, you will see signs posted about passport application requirements that specifically say, "no certifications of life birth," must be long form."

    -end snip-

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=277753

    LOL OBot, I'm sure the "full faith and credit clause" don't work for Identification purposes with numerous of examples all over the place.

    And OBot, do you and all the other OBots have standing in court? Answer: nope, no you don't. You just have some generalized BS grievance without any concrete injury.

    No you can't. LoL.

    RS

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  10. Retired Intelligence OfficerApril 13, 2011 at 9:44 PM

    Can the FULL FAITH AND CREDIT CLAUSE be used to make Arizona accept Obama's short forn COLB? Surely these bill writers thought of that ahead. Also what concerns me is that the 9th Circuit Court could possible strike this down if Obama took it to court. Do you think that's possible? I hope not but I am noticing on other boards that everyone is saying the FF&C clause will hender this bill as well as others. One thing though, Miki Booth has shown that Hawaii still issues a long form certificate of live birth. That could be asked for by Arizona along with the short form for comparison. Oh well, anybody care to comment on this?

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  11. "Surely these bill writers thought of that ahead. "

    No, actually they didn't think ahead on this one. Most republican / conservative politicians couldn't give a damn if they violate the constitution or not.

    It's clear as day though, read the full faith and credit clause - - it's not cryptic. It clearly means that the constitution protects the validity of Obama's birth certificate. Those who try to find a way around this are CLEARLY violating the constitution.
    These Anti-American and Anti-Constitution state congressmen need to be held legally accountable for their actions.

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  12. "LOL OBot, I'm sure the "full faith and credit clause" don't work for Identification purposes with numerous of examples all over the place."

    If they are they are clearly violating the constitution. Can you read the Full Faith and credit clause and tell me why I'm wrong?
    Come on, break it down for me. Why should they be allowed to ignore this part of the constitution?

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  13. LMAO...

    Right after Obama AKA Soetoro AKA Soebarkah, how does that sound, commie!?

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  14. @Anonymous

    "If they are they are clearly violating the constitution. Can you read the Full Faith and credit clause and tell me why I'm wrong?
    Come on, break it down for me. Why should they be allowed to ignore this part of the constitution?"

    You OBots are the ones making the claim that the FFC clause would be in violation by state eligibility ballot laws. So you tell us how they will violate the US Constitution? I don't see it. You got any 'stare decisis' judgments to back you up on that specifically? If you read the bill OBot, you'll see that AZ will except the Hawaiian short form COLB as evidence, but Obama will need addition information to get on the ballot.

    Check out the Antenori amendment to the bill below:

    "The Antenori floor amendment to the Government Reform Committee amendment inserts language regarding a presidential candidate who does not possess a long form birth certificate. A candidate would be able to include two or more of the following:

    a) baptismal or circumcision certificate

    b) hospital birth record

    c) postpartum medical record

    d) early census record.

    Additionally, a candidate would also be able to submit a notarized affidavit from two or more persons who witnessed the candidates birth."


    So hey OBot, you do see above "b)" above and in bold letters that Arizona would accept the Hawaiian short form COLB?

    So Obama can show his "Fact"Check.org COLB forgery as proof LoL, And one more of those listed above either a, c, or d.

    But, but, OBot, Obama may want to find two witnesses instead who saw him being born!

    You think Obama can find two perjurers? I found one. Goobenor Neil Albercrombie might volunteer for the job since he said he "cut Obama's umbilical cord" LoL.

    Maybe you could be the 2nd witness since lying comes easy for OBots.


    RS

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  15. @Retired Intelligence Officer
    You're noticing the FF&C Clause being mentioned everywhere because that's the waste the flying monkeys were instructed to drop when they were ordered out of their cages and into the blogosphere today.

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  16. Via email:

    Breaking News: American Conservative Union to Launch National Campaign to Expose the Constitutional Ineligibility of the Usurper in Chief -- Barry Soetoro Obama | by CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)

    I just received a fund raising drive telephone call from an "Ashley" of the American Conservative Union asking for donations to launch a national advertising campaign to expose the unconstitutional and ineligibility for the office of the presidency of Barry Soetoro Obama. I told them to place the ads and the money will pour in to help expose the true legal identity of Barry Soetoro Obama. Obama is certainly not a "natural born Citizen" to constitutional standards. I told the fund raising caller I will believe it when I see it and let's see the American Conservative Union walk the walk. I told them to launch their campaign and they will have the 100% support of individuals such as I, lead plaintiff in the Kerchner v Obama lawsuit, and millions and millions of other American concerned about the fraud in the White House. Let's see what they do in the next 10 days.

    A Catalog of Evidence - Concerned Americans Have Good Reason to Doubt that Putative President Obama Was Born in Hawaii | by Atty Mario Apuzzo:
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/05/catalog-of-evidence-concerned-americans.html



    CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
    Lehigh Valley PA USA
    http://www.protectourliberty.org


    ####

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  17. The Full Faith clause FORBIDS states requiring more proof of birth than any particular state gives. Hawaii COLB is all Obama needs.

    End of story.

    I'll come back when this is addressed in court and
    point out what a bunch of absolute morons you people are for not realizing this.

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  18. @Anonymous
    Nice threat, 0bamazombie. Did you miss the leper messiah's speech about civility in political discourse? Leftist troll. You know it's illegal to make death threats.

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  19. Which forged COLB will he submit, the FTS, Factcheck, or Daily Kos?

    Will he send his staffer in to the Arizona office with a laptop or will he be stupid enough to submit a forged document?

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  20. To obot at 5:46 am. That very well could be. Problem is, if that occurs, it still doesn't prove Barry was born in here, hee hee hee. Oh yeah, as far as morons go, we're all morons at this point. Those that voted for Barry and all of us now, who just can't get it right on how to have him removed. I'd like to think we're learning, though. Maybe, just maybe, if a few of you took a second look at what is known and/or unknown, you would at least have to conclude something isn't right. We'll all procede from there.

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  21. California birther/dualer/doubterApril 14, 2011 at 12:57 PM

    Funny how the schizophrenic left violate the commerce clause when they unleashed Obamacare but then screech about the "Barry Bills" violating the full faith and credit clause.

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  22. Dear Legislators , under this US Court of Appeals ruling , the Full Faith and Credit Clause did not need apply another states ruling , but regarding Obama's Eligibility to be POTUS its does , this seems like a Double standard , is it ??

    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
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    (c) No person otherwise eligible to adopt under any section of this statute .... The Framers drafted the Full Faith and Credit Clause (hereinafter “FFCC”) ..... This Court has long recognized that a state need not apply another state's ..... The Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment does not recognize the ...
    www.bu.edu/law/central/jd/programs/advanced/.../R3ALB-09-01.doc

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CEwQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bu.edu%2Flaw%2Fcentral%2Fjd%2Fprograms%2Fadvanced%2Fdocuments%2FR3ALB-09-01.doc&ei=4e-uTejNK6PY0QHX8IGrCw&usg=AFQjCNHI9eaCD20wwQ-Z7wzhZuSJjjyWIA

    Is the Obama Administration Picking and Choosing its Constitutional defense by trying to Create a Precedence with rulings like this ??
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260494/breaking-obama-administration-declares-doma-unconstitutional-wont-defend-it-court-dani

    Is Obama trying to shield his Eligibility to be POTUS behind the Rejection of the DOMA Act under the US Constitution , which all are contingent of the Full Faith and Credit Clause , of which Obama needs to Over turn to Force the states to Combine the acceptance of Records for POUTS eligibility , and by so amending the DOMA act will open the door to further challenges to the FFC Clause's effect on a Eligibility Claim in my Opinion based off what I read here in the Findings of the US Court of Appeals ruling above regarding the case

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