Tuesday, March 15, 2011

[VIDEO UPDATE BELOW] Via the Atlanta Journal-Constitution; - Birther bill sponsor tries, fails to get vote - By April Hunt

The sponsor of a “birther” bill that has stalled in the Georgia House made a last-ditch effort Tuesday to get a vote on the proposal.

Rep. Mark Hatfield, R-Waycross, failed in his attempt to get the powerful Rules Committee to amend a bill setting the date for Georgia’s presidential primary. He tried to add language from House Bill 401, which would force presidential and vice presidential candidates to prove their U.S. citizenship before landing on the Georgia ballot.

The attempt would have led to a Crossover Day vote on Wednesday, the last day for a measure to pass from one chamber for review in another. The primary bill is up for a vote on Wednesday, but without any amendments.

Hatfield’s bill, which originally had 93 co-sponsors, had just 65 backers by this week.... ...Continued here; http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/birther-bill-sponsor-tries-873634.html 



As previously reported here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Montana, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Indiana, Connecticut, Missouri and Iowa are pursuing legislation that will require presidential and vice-presidential candidates prove they're Constitutionally Eligible. 

Georgia Representative Tommy Benton: I Have Doubts Obama Was Born In The United States; Obama Has Refused To Show His Birth Certificate. -Details here.

VIDEO: Co-Sponsor of Georgia Proof-of-Eligibility Law Rep. Sean Jerguson Speaks Out: Slams Media For Spinning & Half-Truths; Got Citizen Parents!? -Video here.

NEW DETAILS & ACTION ALERT: GA HB401 Proof-of-Eligibility; Cut Off Period Next Week; Contact GA House Republican Leadership; Demand Action -Details here.

The States Have the Constitutional Power to Pass Legislation Prescribing Presidential Ballot Access Requirements Including Determining Whether a Candidate Meets the Eligibility Requirements of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 - Details here. 

Notre Dame Professor Charles Rice: Obama's eligibility could be biggest political fraud in the history of the world; time for a new approach -Details here. 

Attorney Mario Apuzzo: All presidents born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur and Barack Obama, met the “natural born Citizen” criteria. -Details here. 

Commander Charles Kerchner: List of U.S. Presidents - Eligibility under Article II Grandfather Clause (GFC) or Natural Born Citizen (NBC) Clause or Seated due to Election Fraud -Details here. 

Visit the Birther Vault for the long list of evidence against Hawaii officials and all of the people questioning Obama's eligibility; [http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/video-ltc-terry-lakins-attorney-on-cnn.html].
Georgia House Bill 401 - Bill Requiring Candidates for President Prove Constitutional Eligibility - 3/1/2011
U.S. Presidents & Eligibility: Grandfather Clause, Natural Born Citizen Clause, or Seated by Fraud
The Citizenship Status of Our 44 Presidents

41 comments:

  1. This is ashame. Watch the media make a big deal out of this tommorrow slamming people wanting to uphold Article 2 Section 1. The MSM were quite about this prior to the vote but watch tommorrow and see them go into overdrive. By the way I liked your brief call in last night on the Howie Mandel show.

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  2. Birthers and the 3 Card Monte

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/03/15/birthers-and-the-3-card-monte/

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  3. Co-opting of The Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act

    Again, the corporate media is deliberately silent to the level of complicity on the threats, intimidation and even legislative blackmail that is currently taking place over the issue of states’ rights and the U.S. Constitution. Specifically being referenced are the efforts of individual states to pass a Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act, or legislation that would allow each state to pass legislation verifying the eligibility of a presidential candidate under Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.

    As most people know and despite demonstrably false assertions to the contrary, Obama has failed to provide proof of eligibility to occupy the White House. Furthermore, those responsible for vetting his credentials and filing the necessary documents to allow him to be included on the ballot have failed to be held accountable for their inaction.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/34452

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  4. more from CFP article

    Georgia: the current legislative battlefield

    imageAs detailed by Messrs. Apuzzo and Kerchner, the most obvious example of this travesty of law is illustrated in the state of Georgia, where we, as Americans, have less than 36 hours to put pressure on the legislators to do the right thing by the U.S. Constitution. As detailed by Messrs. Apuzzo and Kerchner, Georgia HB 401, The Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act is deliberately and purposely being stalled in committee by the Georgia House of Representatives by lack of full backing by the Republican Speaker of the House David Ralston.

    Co-Sponsor of the Georgia Proof-of-Eligibility Law, Representative Sean Jerguson has laid the unvarnished truth out to the American people in an interview last week about the media’s distortion of the bill. He slams the media for spinning the truth or only offering half-truths about the bill. The video of this March 7, 2011 interview can be accessed here and provides an excellent glimpse into what has been going on behind the scenes pertaining to this bill.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/34452

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  5. @ Anonymous 10:57PM and others

    You said:
    [Furthermore, those responsible for vetting his credentials and filing the necessary documents to allow him to be included on the ballot have failed to be held accountable for their inaction.]

    Has anyone ever attempted to contact former Hawaii Democratic Party Chair Bryan Schatz and ask him directly why he didn't certify Obama on their OCON form?

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  6. During the Jim “Howie” Mandel radio show this evening, I stated that during the Senate Resolution 511 approval process there was mention by someone as an aside that Obama was born in Hawaii. I said that it seemed stange that someone should mention where Obama was born when the issue was whether McCain was a "natural born Citizen." While we were on the air, a copy of Senate Resolution 511 was examined and shown no to contain any such declaration.

    The reason why the Obama birth-place declaration was not found is that it is contained in the legal opinion memo written by Tribe and Olson which served as the legal foundation for Senate Resolution 511, not in the resolution itself. Here is the language:

    “And Senator Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961—not long after its admission to the Union on August 21, 1959. We find it inconceivable that Senator Obama would have been ineligible for the Presidency had he been born two years earlier.”

    Opinion of Laurence H. Tribe and Theodore B. Olson, dated March 19, 2008, reported in 154 Cong. Rec. S3645-46 (Apr. 30, 2008). This is the legal opinion that supports Senate Resolution 511declaring John McCain a “natural born citizen.”

    Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162 (1875) confirmed that Emer de Vattel, in The Law of Nations, Section 212, is the source that provided the Founders and Framers the definition of a natural born citizen which definition is a child born in the country to citizen parents. While not citing Vattel by name, Minor provided Vattel’s definition of a “natural born citizen” almost verbatim. In fact, Minor told us that the Framers were familiar with the common law and then gave us Vattel’s definition of a “natural born Citizen” when telling us what that common law was. This surely was not the English common law. Hence, Minor shows that Vattel’s definition became incorporated into American common law. Our U.S. Supreme Court confirmed that Vattel may be relied upon in defining a “natural born Citizen.”

    Note that Tribe and Olson did not rely upon Vattel Section 215 to declare McCain a “natural born citizen,” Vattel being the only source used by Minor which was also confirmed to be a valid source in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark which cited Minor and provided its Vattelian common law definition of a “natural born Citizen.”

    Vattel could have provided Tribe and Olson with a much better argument for declaring McCain to be a “natural born Citizen,” for Vattel at Section 215 says that one who is born out of the country to parents serving in the armies of the state is reputed born in the country. Hence, McCain would be considered born in the country to citizen parents and thus a “natural born Citizen.” This is especially so since the U.S. Supreme Court in Minor had already relied upon Vattel to define a “natural born Citizen.” But then if Tribe and Olson used Vattel as authority for their opinion that McCain was a "natural born Citizen," they would have disqualified Obama from being President.

    By the way, the poster above, "Mario," is not me.

    Mario Apuzzo, Esq.

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  7. @Mario Apuzzo, Esq.

    My guess is they didn't cite that because it would have plastered a big X on Obama's "natural born Citizen" status...

    Correct?

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  8. Removing the illegal alien cannot be had sitting in front of a laptop. I love you guys and applaud all of your efforts. But, no matter what, sooner or later, all would have to conclude that this can only be cured by the citizens themselves. There is not going to be an easy fix. Dictators stay in power, for life.

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  9. the danger of forged birth documents coming from hawaii is a prime reason why the birther movement needs to be focused on the kenyan father of obama and not on his birth certificate. it should primarily be stressed around the clock that obama is a dual citizen which is not allowed by the constitution

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  10. It took a century for them to get here ( in total control of everything). No one individual on any level is, or can, do anything to dissrupt what took years to accomplish. You want who? To do what? At this point, are you crazy? They are all in a "do nothing-kind of in your face" mode. There is only one strategy left. Revolution.

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  11. Obama is a dual citizen of indonesia and that is enough to impeach him.We dont need to see a birth certificate

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  12. i have not seen or heard anything on the theresa cao trial date yesterday as of yet. does anybody know what took place?

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  13. @Anonymous

    From what I heard, again, not one person showed up to support her at her hearing.

    As for the outcome of the hearing, I don't know what happened... I imagine Sharon at the P&E will be posting an update later today about it...

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  14. Why do you think no one showed? I can think of 2 possible reasons right off the bat. 1-No one cares. 2-People are afraid. I don't know. Maybe a little of both.

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  15. California Birther/Dualer/DoubterMarch 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM

    The Georgia House Republicans who kowtowed to media pressure and were bamboozled by its lies should have considered that maybe, just maybe, the Anointed One would have WELCOMED the opportunity to prove that he was born in Hawaii, since he and his acolytes have all said that was so, did they not?

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  16. If he had a birth certificate he would have showed it in 2008.End of story.We are in a dictatorship and obama is our ruler

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  17. @Anonymous
    "the danger of forged birth documents coming from hawaii is a prime reason why the birther movement needs to be focused on the kenyan father of obama and not on his birth certificate. it should primarily be stressed around the clock that obama is a dual citizen which is not allowed by the constitution"

    Until a birth certificate is presented, we don't know who was named "Father" at the time of his birth.

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  18. "There is only one strategy left. Revolution."

    bring it.

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  19. @Anonymous
    "Obama is a dual citizen of indonesia and that is enough to impeach him.We dont need to see a birth certificate"

    I agree with you about his having Indonesian citizenship and (maybe)American citizenship, too. However, I've read some remarks made by legal eagles stating that because he was only a child when he was moved from the US and given Indonesian citizenship and was still a child when he returned to the US, his Indonesian citizenship may not be "held against him" (their words, not mine). I don't know if they're right or not and I'd be very interested to hear what Mario Apuzzo has to say about it.

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  20. @Anonymous
    "There is only one strategy left. Revolution."

    bring it.

    March 16, 2011 4:19 PM


    You're late. Did you have to stay after school today?

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  21. It does not matter if he was a child or not.He can be anything in this country he wants to be like a state senator for 6 or 7 years and a congress senator for 3 years.HE JUST CAN'T BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES because he was a indonesian citizen which makes him a dual citizen. Obama is real arrogant and he thinks he rules the world and he thinks he is better then everybody else.

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  22. I can't stand you conservatives, I really despise you. If you started a civil war I'd give my left nut to be able to fight you and take you out.

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  23. You're an obot, you have no nuts... Obama aka Soetoro took them from you...

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  24. phillip berg says that barry soetoro was supposed to change his name back to barack hussein obama after returning from indonesia. he was supposed to do this between the ages of 18 and 21. berg says no evidence can be found that he legally did this. therefore every time he signs his name he is committing fraud including the 50 state primaries.

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  25. @Anonymous
    Calm down. I didn't come up with that. I was just telling you what others - other "birthers," that is - have said about his Indonesian citizenship.

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  26. I sent this to every Republican Rep.in Wisconsin,
    they have a good track record. Maybe they'll write a bill.

    Thank You, for voting to bring your state back to fiscal responsibility, some things have to be done and some people don't understand that. I know you must have a lot going on, but I need to ask a favor for the entire country. If you or one of your fellow republicans can find the time to introduce an eligibility bill for the purpose of vetting and verifying candidates for president and vice president to prove they are natural born citizens as per article 2 sec1 of the US constitution. As you may know there are a number of other states trying to do the same thing. Over 50% of Americans are doubting Obama's birth place, not to mention his dual citizenship. His gangster government has already gotten to some of the legislators in those states. I know Wisconsin is a determined state and will not be strong armed by Obama's goons. We need this bill passed now so that the American people will never again have doubts about our president. More info at www.birtherreport.com
    Thank You

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  27. It isn't his Indonesian citizenship that matters because that happened later in his life, what matters is his status at birth. It's a fact that he was BORN a dual citizen...American and also a British subject (at most, IF he was born in Hawaii). The status at birth is what counts to determine if one is a natural born citizen and Obama FAILS!

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  28. Anonymous Said: "the danger of forged birth documents coming from hawaii is a prime reason why the birther movement needs to be focused on the kenyan father of obama and not on his birth certificate. it should primarily be stressed around the clock that obama is a dual citizen which is not allowed by the constitution"

    The problem with that tactic is: Until you see the Birth Certificate, you only have Obama's word for who his Father and Mother was. What if it turns out that his father was NOT Obama Sr.?
    What if his father (listed on whatever is being held in the DOH Vault) lists his father as a US Citizen? Then What? The Birth Certificate isn't the end - it's the Beginning - but it IS important. How do we know his mother is Stanley Ann Dunham? We need to see the Birth Certificate (If one exists).
    ELmo

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  29. A suggested narrative to explain an event that has not been explained to date.

    A person asked me the other night on the radio show why would the Daily Kos have to forge a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth (COLB) when Obama could have easily obtained a real one. As you recall the Daily Kos put up the first digital internet image of the Obama COLB which later was picked up by Obama's campaign site, not vice versa. I have thought about this. Knowing that imo there is an actual vital record for Obama in Hawaii due to the likely false registration of Obama being born their by his maternal grandmother, Grandma Dunham, and that falsified registration triggered the two newspaper announcements which were placed routinely by the Bureau of Health in those two newspapers every week or two as public service reporting births registered, real births or false filings such as Grandma Dunhams for Obama. We also know from research by others that Obama's vital records have been amended. Thus comes to my mind why I think Obama could not get a real COLB from Hawaii and publish that on the net. I believe now that he was falsely registered as born in Honolulu by the Grandma under the name of Barack Hussein Obama II. But at age 5 or less he was adopted by his new step-father Lolo Soetoro. Thus his birth records in Hawaii were amended to a new name, Barry Soetoro, or Soebarkah Soetoro (the name mentioned in the mother's passport file found via the FOIA request by Strunk). Barry Soetoro of course became his nickname since Soebarkah Soetoro was a mouth full to pronounce. I believe that Obama never had that record legally changed back to Barack Hussein Obama II. Thus he could not get an official COLB from Hawaii because the name would show up as Soetoro, not Obama. Thus his corrupt and criminal helpers forged a COLB as a digital image and put it on the net at Daily Kos. It was then picked up at other sites and eventually Obama put it up on his site. Obama is now stuck with that forged image and picture since he adopted it as his own. Just like he is stuck with the SSN identity theft charge because he used it for his name in the back dated Selective Service registration. Thus, imo, he could not use a real COLB from Hawaii in 2008 because it still showed the amended record with his adopted name of Soetoro. But this would explain why he had to have someone forge a COLB image for his campaign. This is a test explanation and is not 100% proven of course. Comments, feedback, and criticism of this postulated theory of why a COLB had to be forged instead of getting a real one from HI in 2008 or 2007, as the case may be. Now possibly he has had his record amended a second time to put his current name back in the HI vital records system. Only when we get certified copies of the true and correct copies of the original birth registration docs and all subsequent amendments will we know the truth. As I said, this is just a theory at this point. JMHO.

    CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
    http://www.protectourliberty.org

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  30. Georgia Speaker of House killed the bill. It's over.

    http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/birther-bill-stalls-at-the-gold-dome-031611

    ATLANTA - A last-minute effort to pass a so-called "Birther Bill" at the Capitol appears to have failed Wednesday.

    The bill would require that candidates for president and vice-president prove their citizenship.

    Critics said the bill would have embarrassed the state and they say it was inspired by claims that question President Barack Obama's citizenship.

    The bill is likely dead for this legislative session.

    The bill initially had 94 signers, but that number dropped to 65 as co-sponsors deleted their names.

    The measure would force candidates for president and vice president to certify their citizenship with the Georgia secretary of state's office before going on the ballot in the state.

    The House speaker sent signals days ago that he did not favor a vote on the bill.

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  31. Yes, thanks, the video report from Fox Atlanta is embedded above...

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  32. Paul Yates
    FOX 5 Reporter
    Paul Yates (paul.yates@myfoxatlanta.com) joined FOX5 Atlanta in 1973 and began reporting in 1977. Covering Georgia’s news for nearly 30 years, Paul is a fixture in the FOX5 News room as well as the Capitol, Governor’s Mansion and other places of state politics.

    Paul has worn many hats at FOX5 including floor director, film and video tape editor and producer. That’s why he knows television news inside and out.

    In addition to covering the Georgia legislature, Paul has covered national political campaigns, major legal trials and several hurricanes. Although his knowledge of government is deep, Paul’s storytelling skills make it easy for viewers to understand the complex workings of the legislature.

    An award winning journalist, Paul has been recognized with a Best Deadline Reporting award from the Sigma Delta Professional Journalism Society. He’s also won Georgia Associated Press and Emmy awards.

    Paul is a graduate of Georgia State University.

    This man is a liar

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  33. http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/birther-bill-stalls-at-the-gold-dome-031611

    Leave a comment for Mr. Yates but don't expect him or the station management to correct the story anytime soon.

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  34. I posted the following comment at the MyFoxAtlanta site and all comments were deleted within 15 minutes:
    _______________________________

    I wonder what kind of retirement package Paul Yates was given in order to sacrifice his credibility.

    http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20112012/111422.pdf

    word up Paul…

    citizen and “Natural Born Citizen” are not synonymous
    _______________

    Why the “Natural Born Citizen” Clause of Our Constitution Is Important
    and Worth Preserving

    by: Mario Apuzzo, Esq.

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-natural-born-citizen-clause-is.html

    (the entire essay was posted)

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  35. I just hung up after the most infuriating phone call I have made since the beginning of my knowledge of Barry’s ineligibility. At Senator John Boozman’s office I was put on the phone with his “expert” on this subject. She said, in a very robotic way, the leaders of Congress had gotten together, and based on the documentation Obama had provided from Hawaii of his eligibility, they were not going to take any action on the issue. She also said the Supreme Court refused to take up the issue. When I asked her why they refused she said, “They don’t have to say”.

    Her response to me was stunning in it’s absolute absurdity, although I can’t deny she was being honest about nothing being done. I asked her to send me a letter repeating what she had just said, and she is going to do that. Any discussion of the facts was a total waste of time. Talking to her was like pulling the string on a talking doll that repeats the same statements….over and over and over.

    It’s worse than I thought, and I thought it was really, really, really bad.

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